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Re: Obama goes campaigning in devastated Colorado fire area. "I am the great healer!" "Vote for me!"

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From: fortunate kitty
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:08
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PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
> "fortunate kitty" <wang@ch.ung> wrote in message
> news:jsngdf$5u7$1@dont-email.me...
>> PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
>>>>> President Barack Obama toured scenes of devastation in Colorado
>>>>> Springs a day after thousands of evacuees began learning whose
>>>>> homes survived the most destructive wildfire in state history.
>>>>>
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>> Now lets travel back in the Wayback machine to when Blanco and Nagin both
>> told Bush and the feds they had it under control:
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>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1484139/posts
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> Obama: visits Colorado area one day after a natural catastrophe occurs
> involving wildfires

You're not terribly bright are you?

Hint - the timeline on Obama's complete ineptitude is really going to 
make your hair burn:

http://arizonalightning.com/2012/06/11/start-of-the-high-park-fire-%e2%80%93-colorado/
Start of the High Park Fire � Colorado

This was right after the fire started on Saturday morning ||6-9-2012||

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/06/29/exclusive-when-did-the-waldo-canyon-fire-start-and-when-did-the-feds-know-it/

According to a source, a group that included at least one federal 
firefighter was sent to look for fire on Friday night, not Saturday 
afternoon. The source added:

�Due to what I believe to be incompetence on the part of those managing 
the initial response to this incident, the Waldo Canyon fire was not 
located in a timely manner. I believe the ensuing tragedy that is now 
unfolding could have easily been prevented and thus view the actions of 
certain individuals as inexcusable.�


Interestingly, federal fire investigators are seeking information from 
anyone who was in the Waldon Canyon or nearby Pyramid Mountain area 
on�||Friday 6/22 or Saturday 6/23.||


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0627/Waldo-Canyon-fire-reaches-epic-proportions-video

Fire from the Waldo Canyon wildfire burns as it moved into subdivisions 
and destroyed homes in Colorado Springs, Colo., on Tuesday, ||June 26, 
2012.||

http://nation.foxnews.com/white-house/2012/06/27/obama-hasnt-spoken-colorado-gov-15-days-despite-raging-wildfires

||June 27, 2012||
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney was asked a question today on why 
President Obama has not further communicated with Colorado Governor John 
Hickenlooper over the raging wildfires in his state. The President's 
last correspondence with the Governor was June 12th, 15 days ago.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/president-obama-tour-colorado-wildfires/story?id=16664332

||June 28, 2012||

The president called Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and Colorado 
Springs Mayor Steve Bach to express his concern...


So, it actually took the clueless one 15 days to even communicate with 
the Governor of Colorado!

Frikkin' shameless!

> Bush: flys over Louisiana a full 5 days after natural catastrophe occurs
> involving hurricane and massive flooding.

Yes, Blanco and Nagin told him they had it covered.

Meanwhile the clueless Obamessiah took 15 days to even TALK to the 
Colorado Governor!


Frikkin' shameless!

> <snip>

Not so much:



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1484139/posts

Just before midnight on August 26, three days before Katrina was to make 
landfall, Kathleen Blanco received a phone call from George Bush. The 
president had been through a series of briefings from Deputy Chief of 
Staff Joe Hagin and knew the potential dangers to New Orleans and the 
surrounding area from a storm the size of Katrina. Now he was attempting 
to convince the Governor of Louisiana that she needed to take immediate 
action.

His pleas fell on deaf ears. It seemed that the Governor was more 
concerned with the legalities of accepting federal assistance, and the 
appearance that her office could not handle the emergency.

Despite Governor Blanco�s reluctance to coordinate the state�s efforts 
with federal assistance, President Bush declared a state of emergency 
for Louisiana two full days before Katrina hit the Louisiana coast. The 
move allowed FEMA to begin staging relief supplies for immediate 
distribution in New Orleans once the storm had passed.

The president's emergency declaration also allowed FEMA to coordinate 
all disaster relief efforts and to provide appropriate assistance in a 
number of Louisiana parishes. All that was left to do was wait for 
Kathleen Blanco to request Federal assistance. Under the Emergency 
Management Assistance Compact, which was revised after 9/11, the Federal 
Government and FEMA are not allowed to interfere with local operations 
unless they are authorized by state and local leaders.

Meanwhile Blanco had her own advisors insisting that the President was 
actually making a request for federal takeover of the Louisiana National 
Guard, and asking to put Louisiana State Police under federal control. 
They were concerned that this would be the same as martial law and lead 
to abuse of power by the federal government.

The next day, August 27, Bush called Blanco again and urged her to order 
a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans, she refuses.

By August 28, with Katrina less than 24 hours away, Governor Blanco had 
not made the decision to allow FEMA workers to assist with relief 
efforts. On this same day, Max Maxfield, the National Hurricane 
Director, called Mayor Ray Nagin and educated him on the force of nature 
was bearing down on his city.

He stressed to Nagin that this storm could clean New Orleans off the 
map. �A storm this size and intensity will destroy the levees in New 
Orleans, they were not built for this,� he said. Apparently Maxfield 
made his point, Mayor Nagin issued a mandatory evacuation order for New 
Orleans on Sunday, August 28.

At 6:44am on August 29, Hurricane Katrina crossed Caprien Bay and 
slammed into Buras, Louisiana packing winds of 144 miles an hour and 
pushing a 24 foot wall of water ahead of her. The tidal surge fanned out 
in a cone ahead of the eye wall. As she crossed the Biloxi Wildlife 
Management Area and into Lake Borgne, the wall of water entered Lake 
Ponchartrain and began to affect the levee system of New Orleans.

The eye continued north and made landfall again at the 
Mississippi/Louisiana border. As Katrina progressed inland the wind 
shifted, forcing additional pressure on the 17th Street Canal levee.

On the afternoon of August 29, in downtown New Orleans and the French 
Quarter, the brunt of the high winds had passed. Residents began to peek 
out and discovered the city was mostly intact. There was wind damage, 
and some water in the streets, but they had seen this before and weren't 
concerned. Sometime during the night of the 29th or early morning of the 
30th, water began to poor through the 17th Street Canal levee. New 
Orleans began to flood.

By Tuesday, August 30, the federal relief effort began shipping food, 
water and medical supplies toward Louisiana for use in New Orleans. The 
same operation was underway in Mississippi and Alabama. The governors of 
those states had a already signed on to federal help and relief was 
pouring in. Governor Blanco was the lone holdout. She had still not made 
a decision.

The Department of Defense sent search and rescue experts, doctors, 
nurses and support personnel. FEMA was there to help as much as they 
could but local and state officials would not allow them to participate 
because Governor Blanco still had not given her permission .

Residents of New Orleans watched as the flood waters continued to poor 
through the breach in the 17th Street Canal levee and by Wednesday their 
frustration began to boil. The summer sun baked survivors on rooftops. 
Those who made it to the Superdome were now wandering through the gutted 
building, waiting for relief supplies and help which never came. Mayor 
Ray Nagin cursed everyone who failed to move fast enough, but Kathleen 
Blanco toured the stricken city in a helicopter while she conducted a 
news interview for CBS. On the ground, state officials were struggling 
with the magnitude of the disaster, but were rapidly being overwhelmed.

Federal officials were on standby, ready to move, but Governor Blanco 
had still mot made a decision to ask for federal help.

That evening, Blanco watched as reports of rapes and looting poured into 
the command center. National news agencies began to run video of looters 
breaking into stores and making off with garbage bags of goods. One 
policeman was shot in the head.

Other rescue workers reported hearing bullets zinging around them as 
they tried to save lives. New Orleans was out of control, and the media 
was wondering who was in charge.

On Thursday, September 1, amid a growing clamor of questions about the 
lack of action being taken in New Orleans, Blanco finally signed 
Executive Order KBB-2005-23, giving permission for the federal 
government to enter Louisiana with military assistance.
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