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Article #552Re: A lesson in socialist irony!
From: Billy
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:37
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:37
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In article <LvCdnXr8SdvYDIzNnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ken Marino <kphandy@earthlink.net> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote: > > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote: > > > >> A lesson in irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered by the > >> U.S. > >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is > >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever. > >> They even advertise how to access the program on Mexican TV! > >> Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. > >> Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the > >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals > >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of > >> themselves. This ends today's lesson. > >> > > Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just > > survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market > > system? > > > > Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the > > tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals. > > > > But they're Americans. They don't deserve any better. > >> "Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and > >> the gospel of envy!" > > The point of how ironic the post comes across a point is obviosly lost on > you. Not surpising. Reminds me of the lottery winner that took home 500K > after taxes and still felt she was entitled to food stamps. She now owned > 2 homes and a car she paid cash for. She was quoted as saying, "I have > epenses and no job." Hey, alligator mouth, you got a citation for that? “When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.” -Archbishop Helder Camara In any event, if she exists, she was going for chump change when you consider the big boys. ----- Total retirement assets, Americans' second-largest household asset, dropped by 22 percent, from $10.3 trillion in 2006 to $8 trillion in mid-2008. During the same period, savings and investment assets (apart from retirement savings) lost $1.2 trillion and pension assets lost $1.3 trillion. Taken together, these losses total $8.3 trillion. The above doesn't include the $9.2 trillion in federal commitment to banks as of Oct, 2011. <http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/elizabeth-warren-libor-fraud-expo ses-a-rotten-financial-system/2012/07/19/gJQAvDnDwW_story.html> Libor fraud exposes Wall Street’s rotten core On any given day, $800 trillion worth of credit-related transactions are linked to Libor rates. And who can forget the bailout. <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aGq2B3XeGKok> U.S. Taxpayers Risk $9.7 Trillion on Bailout Programs (Dubya already had driven the bail-out to over $7 trillion.) A little seedier is HSBC's laundry operation. In the New York Times business section, we read that the HSBC banking group is being fined up to $1bn, for not preventing money-laundering (a highly profitable activity not to prevent) between 2004 and 2010 – a six years' long "oops". <http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/14/global-financial-fra ud-gatekeepers> During the savings-and-loan scandal of the 1980s—a scandal whose dimensions, by today’s standards, seem almost quaint—the banker Charles Keating was asked by a congressional committee whether the $1.5 million he had spread among a few key elected officials could actually buy influence. “I certainly hope so,” he replied. The Supreme Court, in its recent Citizens United case, has enshrined the right of corporations to buy government, by removing limitations on campaign spending. The personal and the political are today in perfect alignment. Virtually all U.S. senators, and most of the representatives in the House, are members of the top 1 percent when they arrive, are kept in office by money from the top 1 percent, and know that if they serve the top 1 percent well they will be rewarded by the top 1 percent when they leave office. - JOSEPH E. STIGLITZ an American economist and a professor at Columbia University. He is a recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (2001) and the John Bates Clark Medal (1979). He is also the former Senior Vice President and Chief Economist of the World Bank <http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-20110 5> So, now why don't you go out, and get outraged over something important? -- Welcome to the New America. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg> or E Pluribus Unum Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala <http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>
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From: Billy <wildbilly@withoutta.net>
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