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Re: A lesson in socialist irony!

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From: Billy
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 04:21
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In article <juun7c$vg$11@dont-email.me>, 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com> 
wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:51:08 -0700, Billy wrote:
> 
> > In article <juscpq$vgm$4@dont-email.me>, 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:50:47 -0500, Ken Marino wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:05:03 -0500, Dänk 42Ø wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
> >> >>>> the U.S.
> >> >>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> >> >>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps
> >> >>>> ever. They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican 
> >> >>>> TV! Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the
> >> >>>> U.S. Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed
> >> >>>> the Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the
> >> >>>> animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to 
> >> >>>> take care of themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
> >> >>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
> >> >>> market system?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and
> >> >> people take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
> >> >> 
> >> >> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve
> >> >> before going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole
> >> >> has evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who
> >> >> can remove his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down
> >> >> to the welfare office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the
> >> >> standards have been lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis"
> >> >> exists.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare
> >> >>> the tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
> >> >> 
> >> >> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have
> >> >> free will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are
> >> >> nothing more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and
> >> >> sheltered by Big Shepherd.
> >> > 
> >> > Couldn't have said it better
> >> 
> >> So where are the fucking jobs?
> >> 
> >> One of you toy fascists might want to answer that.
> > 
> > There aren't any, because there is no money to operate them. Banks don't
> > give short term, or "bridging" loans, because they can make guaranteed
> > money on government bonds. 
> 
> Have you looked at the yield on government bonds lately?  It's 
> effectively MINUS 0.6%.  

Interest rates on Treasury bonds are near their lowest in decades, 
meaning banks aren't getting a ton of return on their investment in 
government-related debt -- the benchmark 10-year Treasury note yielded 
2.03 percent Monday afternoon (03/12/20). But banks are also getting 
essentially zero-percent overnight loans from the Federal Reserve, so 
any interest above that is mostly profit.
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/banks-sit-on-cash-instead-of-le
nding_n_1339821.html>
> 
> Banks also have fraud, and money laundering
> > available as a means of revenu. Multinational corporations are sitting
> > on mountains of money, and one can only speculate why they don't spend
> > it. I, myself, lean to the conspiracy theory. And rich people (1%), keep
> > their money out of the U.S., like Romney, so that they won't have to pay
> > taxes for things like infrastructure.
> > 
> Time to end that before they end us.  The country can't survive having 
> half the economy ripped off by a privileged 0.1%.
> > 
> > <http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/14/global-financial-
> fra
> > ud-gatekeepers>
> > This global financial fraud and its gatekeepers
> > 
> > <http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-12/
> news/31146859_1_financial
> > -crisis-banks-lending-money>
> > Meanwhile, The Fed's Still Paying Banks Not To Lend...
> > 
> > <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hoarding-hiring-corporations-stockpile-
> mo
> > untain-cash/story?id=10250559#.T_SjOHDcsnU>
> > Hoarding, Not Hiring – Corporations Stockpile Mountain of Cash
> > 
> > <http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-tax-
> havens-20120723,0,656
> > 2876.story>
> > Rich hide up to $32 trillion in offshore tax havens, report contends
> > 
> > Another conclusion by the report is that “wealth doesn’t trickle down —
> > it just floods offshore.”
> > 
> > “When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why
> > the poor have no food, they call you a communist.”
> > -Archbishop Helder Camara
> > 
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>
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