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Re: Promise Keeper's might stay

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From: Celia Clause
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 17:33
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Nathan Duehr --

Several times in your previous post you ask why some people fear the PKers and
conservitive christians. You say that although christians would like everyone
to live a godly lifestyle, they are not forcing anyone to. 

I would like to explain why I fear some of the conservative christians and 
what effort I perceive they have made to repress my rights.

First I would like to talk about the tirany of the majority. If a potential
law stating that black people are not equal to white people and therefor 
should not be able to vote was put on the ballet and 60% of the people voted
for this law, it would still be evil and I would fight it with every ounce 
of power that I could muster. Just because the majority votes for something 
or lets something occur does not mean that I should not or will not fight 
against it. 

That said, I would like to talk about amendment 2. This law stated that 
homosexuals should not have the right to claim discrimination if they were
fired by their employer for the sole reason of being gay. This means that 
homosexuals would not have had the right to state in a public place, "I
am gay." without the fear of losing their home or their job. The majority of
the people who voted for this law are christians who feel that homosexuality
is wrong and is a sin against their god. 

This law took away the basic right of freedom of speach for a portion of the
population because christians felt what they did in the privacy of their own
homes was a sin. Can you imagine a similar law which stated that christians
should not have the right to claim discrimination if they were fired by their
employer for the sole reason of being christians? Such a law would NEVER have
passed, because christians are in the majority. 

I would also like to talk about operation rescue and abortion. A large 
portion of christians feel that abortion is wrong. Many are not content
to merely not have an abortion and to work towards giving people options
other than abortion. They want to make abortion illegal in the United States.
I don't want to discuss why I believe every woman has the right to make her
own very personal choice on whether she has the ability or the strength to 
carry a child to term, but this is what I believe.

I would also like to talk about sodomy laws. At first glance, these laws 
seem to only affect homosexuals, but when you take a look at the definition
used for somdomy in most state you realize that anyone who wants to have sex
in a manner that does not conform to the conservative christians is affected.
Even if these laws only affected gays they would be an example of christians
abusing their power to force people worry about being put in jail for what
they do in the privacy of their own homes, between consenting adults. There
is precidence for these laws be used to take away the children of both 
hetrosexuals and homosexuals. The most recent case was in virginia with two
lesbians. Another case many years ago put a hetrosexual couple IN JAIL
for having anal sex in their own home. This was in georgia. 

I would also like to talk about prayer in school. Many conservative christians
would like to see voluntary prayer in school. (By voluntary they mean a 
teacher will lead a christian prayer and the students may choose not to 
participate. Of course, this ignores the fact that a teacher is an athority
figure who may change a childs grades based on whether they pray. It ignores
the fact that children are cruel to eachother and will theaten, tease and
shun children who choose to be different.) They seek to impose their 
religion on my children. Can you imagine if a group of pagans tried to get
prayers to the goddesses in school or to have in school celebrations of 
the rights of winter and spring? This would NEVER have occurred , because
christians are in the majority.

All of these things make christians threatening. No, not all christians seek
to take away the right of others, but enough of them do. This is why I speak
out against the views of PKers (which to me are conservitive christians.)
This I why I fear them. I will not stand by and let anyone take away my 
right to define my own morality, own religion, and to say what I want in
public without fear.

//Celia Clause
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Subject: Re: Promise Keeper's might stay
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