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Re: Drivers here are better than average!

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From: Jill Lundquist
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1992 23:58
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In article <1992Dec3.162430.18402@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
>In article <1992Dec2.201029.12072@claven.ucar.edu> woods@claven.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) writes:
>>...The only
>>way to do that is to provide reasonable alternatives to driving, i.e.
>>a DECENT public transit system. (Obviously, exactly  what constitutes a decent
>>public transit system is open to debate, but basically it means something
>>that can take you from point A to point B, in a reasonable amount of time,
>>any time you need to go).
>
>By this definition, at least, we already have a decent public transportation
>system: I can get just about anywhere, in reasonable time, without having
>to walk more than three or four blocks at either end. I think the 
>problem is than people expect door-to-door service, and don't consider
>a five-minute walk to the bus stop "reasonable."

I've had good experiences with the regional buses to Denver and
to Longmont, meaning the A, B, D, and M.  The L was okay the
one time I rode it.  I like taking my bike to another city
and having that freedom of movement there.

However, in general RTD does not meet the third criterion listed
up there.  Many buses, particularly the ones that service the
area where I work (Foothills and Pearl), make their last run at
5pm, which is ludicrous for everybody in our office.  In fact, I
have not been able to find any reasonable way to get there by bus
from the not-exactly-little-known corner of Broadway and
Baseline, and no, I don't mind a walk here and there.  When I
lived at 28th and Iris and wanted to get home by bus, I had to
leave campus at seven to get the only bus that came anywhere near
home.  Those are not reasonable hours for an overworking student
or student/employee.

In general, if I could use the buses to get more places at night,
I would think RTD in Boulder isn't too bad.  It's certainly
better here than in the Denver suburbs (I have bussed in Arvada,
Lakewood, and Aurora, and it sucked).  David Knapp mentioned
that time was an important factor; I don't mind spending a little
extra time to avoid the hassle of driving, but having to curtail
my work life to do it is not acceptable.

-- 
Jill Lundquist		jill@cs.colorado.edu		DoD #882

When hell freezes over, grab the ice skates.
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