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Article #88421Re: Op-Ed piece (was: The TRUE story about the Canadian "election").
From: Bear Giles
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1992 20:13
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1992 20:13
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In article <1992Jul8.171702.15889@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU (CUFFELL TIMOTHY MICH) writes: >In article <1992Jul8.000947.12891@colorado.edu> bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles) writes: >>In article <1992Jul7.212920.6452@colorado.edu> weverka@csn.org (Robert T. Weverka) writes: >>>As I understand it the banks use code to transfer money, and these >>>codes are about as secure as it gets. >> >>Money transfers between banks are encrypted with DES. Some people >>have concerns that DES has been compromised by the NSA, but that is >>unproven. (Not necessarily unfounded: IBM, the originator of DES, > ^^^^^^^^ > >Not true!!!! Shamir (the 's' in RSA, the name of what is probably the most >secure cryptological system to date) has recently cracked a non-trivial >special case of DES, and is close to a general solution. As I understood it, his special case required a "choose-text" attack and reduced the number of necessary from an obscenely large number to a number merely ridiculous. Something like from 2^56 to 2^48 tries. That is _not_ close to a general solution. (His approach would have been close to a general solution except DES uses 16 iterations and this approach only works for 15-or-fewer iterations. The designers of DES basically said: "We knew about that approach..." This was discussed on sci.crypt back in December, as I recall). >While a computerized and secure election is possible, the logistical >consideration still make the old fashioned ballot box the best choice. I agree. DES is irrelevant anyway since the method I suggested on sci.crypt/alt.security involves public-key encryption. Bear Giles bear@fsl.noaa.gov
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f49ec,3c749a014e8336a3 X-Google-Attributes: gidf49ec,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-07-08 03:44:02 PST Newsgroups: boulder.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!boulder!tigger!bear From: bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles) Subject: Re: Op-Ed piece (was: The TRUE story about the Canadian "election"). Message-ID: <1992Jul8.201331.10833@colorado.edu> Sender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet) Nntp-Posting-Host: tigger.cs.colorado.edu Organization: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Adminstration / Boulder Labs References: <1992Jul7.212920.6452@colorado.edu> <1992Jul8.000947.12891@colorado.edu> <1992Jul8.171702.15889@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1992 20:13:31 GMT Lines: 34