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Article #23Re: Delusions( talk.religion.buddhism,alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan)
From: ZnWlkr
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:00
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In article <84d36c$cep$1@news1.bu.edu>, Tang Huyen <thuyen@bu.edu> wrote: > X-Orig-MsgId: <386A0FF8.96774E1B@bu.edu> > > I have chided and criticised other posters, but that was and is my > limit.>> > > ZnWlkr: <<So it seems who cries intimidation turns out to be the >intimidator? <snip> Imagine, saying, "back off or I'll blow you away"is >actually supported, even defended, in Buddhist circles now. > Existence is not seperable from itself! The more we try to gain > control by resisting control, the more we become controlled. ...try to > control the river and you will become controlled, and eventually be > driven to do what you would not otherwise as options become more > and more limited, and the stress within our awareness increases. >snip> > "What is equanimity? It is the equality of everything from self to liberation - > both self and liberation are void. Although both pleasure and > pain are abandoned when Buddha-nature is fully realized, there is then no > sacrifice of compassion for all living beings living in the bad migrations. Thus, > recognizing in his own suffering the infinite sufferings of these living beings, > the bodhisattva correctly contemplates these living beings and resolves to cure > all sicknesses. As for these living beings, there is nothing to be applied, and > there is nothing to be removed; one has only to teach them the Dharma for them to > realize the basis from which sicknesses arise. What is this basis? It is > object-perception. Insofar as apparent objects are perceived, they are the basis > of sickness. What things are perceived as objects? The three realms of existence > are perceived as objects. What is the thorough understanding of the basic, > apparent object? It is its nonperception, as no objects exist ultimately. What is > nonperception? The internal subject and the external object are not perceived > dualistically. Therefore, it is called nonperception." VIMALAKIRTI NIRDESA > SUTRA>> > > ZnWlkr: <<Tang, > > > Thank you, ZnWlkr, for your feedback. > > As you say: <<Imagine, "back off or I'll blow you away" is now supported, > defended even, in Buddhist circles? Man! Nothing stays the same!>> > > The Vimalakirti Nirdesa is a favourite of mine, though I rarely quote it, because > it is too deep and radical. > > Tang Huyen > Well, 'The Reconciliation of Dichotomies,' or,'Section of the Inconceivable Liberation.' as it may be called, does strike to the core of our being - and the heart of Buddha Dharma itself, I think. I have not found found penetrating any of the Sutra's exercise in immediate gradification ... not quite like visiting a teacher to be told, "think this while doing that and magic/walla - you will be transformed to other than is so in its place"..... if you know what I mean? I believe if more knew what the VN Sutra ment, they would find where this discussion they've taken up with you is really about within themselves.... "...a bodhisattva's buddha-field is a field of positive thought. When he attains enlightenment, living beings free of hypocrisy and deceit will be born in his buddha-field. "Noble son, a bodhisattva's buddha-field is a field of high resolve. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who have harvested the two stores and have planted the roots of virtue will be born in his buddha-field."A bodhisattva's buddha-field is a field of virtuous application. When he attains enlightenment living beings who live by all virtuous principles will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is the magnificence of the conception of the spirit of enlightenment. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who are actually participating in the Mahayana will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is a field of generosity. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who give away all their possessions will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is a field of tolerance. When he attains enlightenment, living beings with the transcendences of tolerance, discipline, and the superior trance - hence beautiful with the thirty-two auspicious signs - will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is a field of meditation. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who are evenly balanced through mindfulness and awareness will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is a field of wisdom. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who are destined for the ultimate will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field consists of the four immeasurables. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who live by love, compassion, joy, and impartiality will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field consists of the four means of unification. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who are held together by all the liberations will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is skill in liberative technique. When he attains enlightenment, living beings skilled in all liberative techniques and activities will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field consists of the thirty-seven aids to enlightenment. Living beings who devote their efforts to the four foci of mindfulness, the four right efforts, the four bases of magical power, the five spiritual faculties, the five strengths, the seven factors of enlightenment, and the eight branches of the holy path will be born in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is his mind of total dedication. When he attains enlightenment, the ornaments of all virtues will appear in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is the doctrine that eradicates the eight adversities. When he attains enlightenment, the three bad migrations will cease, and there will be no such thing as the eight adversities in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field consists of his personal observance of the basic precepts and his restraint in blaming others for their transgressions. When he attains enlightenment, even the word 'crime' will never be mentioned in his buddha-field. "A bodhisattva's buddha-field is the purity of the path of the ten virtues. When he attains enlightenment, living beings who are secure in long life, great in wealth, chaste in conduct, enhanced by true speech, soft-spoken, free of divisive intrigues and adroit in reconciling factions, enlightening in their conversations, free of envy, free of malice, and endowed with perfect views will be born in his buddha-field. "Thus, noble son, just as is the bodhisattva's production of the spirit of enlightenment, so is his positive thought. And just as is his positive thought, so is his virtuous application." Yes indeed, all is as we see it, every thing what we make of it! Turning poison to gold...----------------------------(for some is don't ruffle my comfy). -- -- Walking Ts'ao Creek Rd.-- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1552e4,ad9f1800153324c9 X-Google-Attributes: gid1552e4,public From: ZnWlkr <ZnWlkr@aol.com> Subject: Re: Delusions( talk.religion.buddhism,alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan) Date: 1999/12/29 Message-ID: <84dar7$udp$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Deja-AN: 566121196 References: <K8PM5CAT8Xa4Ew6o@lamrimbristol.demon.co.uk> <84cdri$9vf$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <84cnf9$h64$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <84d36c$cep$1@news1.bu.edu> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x34.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.188.198.36 Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Dec 29 16:03:37 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDznwalkr Newsgroups: bu.localpostings X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 2.1; AOL 3.0; Mac_PPC)