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Article #1115Re: If everyone would drive GEO metros
From: Jeff Strickland
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:41
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:41
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"John Beardmore" <wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:DHTg9XixJvAAFwqu@wookie.demon.co.uk... > In article <1005rh2oa19itbe@corp.supernews.com>, Jeff Strickland > <beerman@yahoo.com> writes > >"Don Quijote" <donquijote1111@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >news:d82348eb.0401100824.32fbfea5@posting.google.com... > > >Anti-social SUV drivers? You are the anti-social element that I see here, > >not the SUV drivers. > > A conclusion you have to reach for to be consistent with the other views > you express. > > Not really. I never propose that SUVs should be banned. I agree that they are a poor choice of personal transportation, but people that buy them have to pay for the gas, not me. I agree that we can do other things to move SUV buyers into products that are more environmentally sound, but I think we should develop those products and ween the SUV buyers away from the addiction they have today into the addictin that makes more sense. I would never stoop so low as to call SUV ownership "anti-social", nor would I call for people to abandon their SUVs without offering them a replacement. And, I would never make the argument that SUVs should be banned solely because they are large. There have been arguments here that SUVs ought to be banned for no other reason than their size -- the drivers accused of being anti-social because of the size of the SUV. There have also been arguments that promote banning the SUV with no suitable replacement. And, there have been calls for banning SUVs because they pollute, but the facts are that there are dozens of commercial vehicles -- light truck models -- that are identical to the SUVs, and these vehicles are typically in a poorer state of repair -- certainly a poor state of visual repair, and I assume the mechanical repair is not far behind (or ahead) -- that makes them an easier target of the enviro nazis. I happen to think that emerging technologies will go a long way in reducing the environmental impacts of SUVs (hybrid is around the corner and fuel cells seem to be looking good), but we will still have the issue of size - an issue that I have never been opposed to.
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