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Article #1134Re: If everyone would drive GEO metros
From: Don Quijote
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:15
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:15
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John Beardmore <wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<mKH5+SEkN7BAFwms@wookie.demon.co.uk>... > In article <d82348eb.0401151950.47494c1d@posting.google.com>, Don > Quijote <donquijote1111@yahoo.com> writes > > >I see crosses popping up along highways and byways. I think they mean > >"RIP," or "someone had a license to kill." > > Or some drunk idiot drove off the road. That can happen to small car > drivers too. > > > J/. Aardwolf <se1aard1@itis.com> wrote in message news:<40073E23.A9085171@itis.com>... > "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote: > > > What a lovely cager myth. > > No bias there I see. > > > > Probability of crashing increases with speed, and the rate of increase also > > increases with speed. > > That's not so. Every honest, scientifically competent study done anywhere > around the world by legitimate researchers (traffic engineers with no > financial axe to grind) since the National Safety Council report of 1942 says > otherwise. It's reducing disturbance in the flow that matters. And that > means setting limits at speeds that the majority of drivers want to travel > at, so the tails of the speed distribution tighten up, and speed variance > decreases. That's true as a rule even in neighborhood or densely traveled > urban streets, even in those places other conflicting factors have been shown > over and over again to be minimal. It even helps other road users as traffic > becomes more predictable to interact with. You may disagree with the choice > of vehicles used to travel the roadways, but that's beside the point. The > traffic flow problems are known and there are effective methods for dealing > with them; their institution is often hampered by ideological resistance and > monetary interests. They set up such a "ticket factory" (three-four patrol cars) at a major one-way, three-lane street, where most everybody usually goes 40 mph upwards because it makes sense. However the posted speed is 35 mph so they catch most everybody "red handed" and they make their day and probably their week as you don't see them enforcing the law where it really counts--our lawless highways. I was cought *twice* going around 40 mph, so now I avoid altogether the street with the ticket factory... ;) > > Input on the topic from sources such as insurance agencies or physicians are > worthless, the former have a vested financial interest in keeping limits low > (surcharges) and the latter see only the health risk involved, which will > always be inherent at some level no matter what sort of conveyance is used. > It's a problem with their commentary on many different subjects. Not to > mention the various "interest groups" which might opine on the topic at > hand--they are exactly that; enough said. Do you mean the vultures benefitting from the accidents? And what about from the tickets? For around $150 bucks you can have a lawyer remove your speeding ticket from your record. Or go to "school" and learn something vague about traffic laws, and again, of course, pay big bucks... ;) > > Actually, looking at the design of a freeway and assessing > > the number of risk factors which have been taken out, you kind of > > wonder how anybody manages to crash on one at all. They must be > > really giving it their best shot! > > No argument there. I don't think they do it quite intentionally. They may not even see the connection between bad driving and accidents. Actually bad driving is rewarded by never issuing tickets for the most dangerous stuff, like zigzaging on the road. It's a jungle out there... ;)
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