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Article #144Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
From: John McCarthy
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 14:58
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 14:58
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Mr. Berry is mistaken in his belief that the whole world cannot sustain itself at a U.S. living standard including personal transportation. He is also mistaken in his belief that the high U.S., European and Japanese living standards depend on exploiting the resources of the poor underdeveloped countries. We are exploiting cheap foreign labor, and if we couldn't do so, there would be a small reduction in living standards. However, 1.2 billion Chinese have just recently made themselves available for exploitation, this being better than their other alternatives. Moreover, there is progress. 30 years ago, we exploited South Koreans who worked for $50 a month. Just recently, the South Koreans started to exploit the Vietnamese who now get $50 per month, whereas South Koreans get $1500. (The South Korean company Daewoo is putting up a factory in Hanoi to manufacture television picture tubes.) As I have done in the past, I am willing to take any two resources Mr. Berry can mention and show how they are available or substitutable on a sufficient scale for the world to reach U.S. standards. The problem is that probably that Mr. Berry has been misinformed by his teachers and other environmentalist, anti-civilization propagandists. -- John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305 * He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
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Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU!CSD-NewsHost!jmc From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy) Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time! In-Reply-To: kberry@sactoh0.sac.ca.us's message of Sat, 2 Jan 93 19:41:39 GMT Message-ID: <JMC.93Jan2145832@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University References: <1992Dec29.190706.17698@bellahs.com> <donb.725749564@crash.cts.com> <01JAN93.01077145.0061@VM1.MCGILL.CA> <1993Jan2.194139.16483@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> Date: 2 Jan 93 14:58:32 Lines: 31