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Article #181Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time!
From: John McCarthy
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 20:58
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 20:58
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In article <1993Jan3.213814.3105@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> kberry@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Kim A. Berry) writes: In article <JMC.93Jan3020049@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes: >Mr. Berry challenges me to offer solutions to all the problems of >the U.S. I cannot accept this challenge, because I would have to >write a book. As I said, I am willing to accept any two environmental >or resource challenges. I believe I could give concise enough answers >so that people would read to the end. >-- >John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305 You claim I am mistaken in my belief that the whole world cannot sustain itself at a U.S. living standard. My claim is based more on economic realities than an actual resource shortage. I understand that, in terms of energy, we have the technology to harness enough sunlight and natural forces to meet the world's energy needs. But whether people in the third world could afford the energy is another matter. Isn't that the reason forests are being harvested for cooking and heading fuel, because the residents can't afford petroleum and electric energy? Regarding your offer to propose a solution to two environmental or resource challenges, I am interested in your ideas. How about: 1. The problem of selenium and other minerals accumulating in California's central valley due to excessive irrigation. 2. The inability of Ethiopia to either produce enough food to feed its growing population or to manufacture something of economic value to exchange for food. Thanks, Kim -- --------------------------------------------------------------- (Mr.) Kim Berry kberry@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US Looking at things from a world point of view, Mr. Berry has picked rather minor problems, and offering solutions for them won't convince many people that world problems can be solved. However, here goes. 1. I don't know what causes selenium to accumulate. I suppose it rises from lower levels of soil. An extreme solution, not economic at present land prices, would be to put an impermeable barrier at a certain depth. I don't know what solutions have been proposed by people in the area. 2. Ethiopia's famines were caused by civil wars and communist rulers. Cuban mercenaries didn't help. -- John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305 * He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
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Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU!CSD-NewsHost!jmc From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy) Subject: Re: Save the Planet and the Economy at the Same time! In-Reply-To: kberry@sactoh0.sac.ca.us's message of Sun, 3 Jan 93 21:38:14 GMT Message-ID: <JMC.93Jan5205854@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University References: <JMC.93Jan2145832@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jan3.045549.22294@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> <JMC.93Jan3020049@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> <1993Jan3.213814.3105@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> Date: 5 Jan 93 20:58:54 Lines: 57