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Article #382Re: How about car-free cities?/ Liberer nos villes des autos?
From: Le Guerrier Louis-Luc
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:00
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John McCarthy (jmc@Steam.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : leguerrl@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Le Guerrier Louis-Luc) writes: : : > I live in a suburban area, I work downtown a large city, and I don't use : > a car. I prefer the train. Now we must work on railing some highways, and : > building more walking, cycling, and small local railways, to help us : > getting to the "main" railways that go downtown. : > : > We should focus on bicycle trailers, tricycles and other human vehicles : > to transport normal personal goods,, and : > use horses to carry heavy loads to/from the railways (to replace trucks). : : Le Guerrier's proposal expresses a moderately widespread sentiment. I : would like to see it done experimentally at Government capital expense : but without subsidy of running expenses. Would a city of 100,000 suffice, : or does the idea require 500,000? : : There could either be a new city built from scratch or an existing : city could be taken over for the experiment. If the latter, the : inhabitants commuters from the suburbs who didn't like the new way of : life would have to be bought out. I am one who wouldn't live or work : in such a city, but for a suitable price I would go away. : : Horses take a lot of space, eat a lot of feed, and require a lot of : people to take care of them. In the 1890s New York had 100,000 : horses, but unless you drastically reduced the amount of goods used, a : larger number of horses per thousand people would be required. :... I suggest horses as a truck replacement, not as a car. Not everyone owns a truck, so not everyone would own a horse, since they can easily bike or walk to the railway for their everyday moves. So there would still be less horses than there were in the 1800s. Louis-Luc
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e08b,404b3e73fe0fa8f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e08b,public X-Google-Thread: fd3ff,404b3e73fe0fa8f2 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3ff,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,f83b6205dcd401dc X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,404b3e73fe0fa8f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public From: leguerrl@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Le Guerrier Louis-Luc) Subject: Re: How about car-free cities?/ Liberer nos villes des autos? Date: 1999/05/30 Message-ID: <flh43.458$U4.13332@carnaval.risq.qc.ca> X-Deja-AN: 483856065 References: <zJg_2.114$X31.3051@carnaval.risq.qc.ca> <373eeb29.6219179@news.pacbell.net> <373FEFE7.F5908A1D@princeton.edu> <3740c752.1250391@news.pacbell.net> <orfairbairn-1905990808020001@1cust54.tnt3.daytona-beach.fl.da.uu.net> <3742B7B6.B00CD09E@email.sps.mot.com> <375013c3.3993497@news.pacbell.net> <P4g43.442$U4.11868@carnaval.risq.qc.ca> <x4hzp2mcowm.fsf@Steam.Stanford.EDU> Followup-To: ca.environment,sci.environment,rec.bicycles.soc,ba.transportation X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-Trace: carnaval.risq.qc.ca 928096715 132.204.2.94 (Sun, 30 May 1999 16:38:35 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 16:38:35 EDT Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment,rec.bicycles.soc,ba.transportation