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Article #389Re: How about car-free cities?/ Liberer nos villes des autos?
From: JNANDREW
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:00
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Le Guerrier Louis-Luc <leguerrl@ERE.UMontreal.CA> wrote in message news:SWw43.2603$U4.26394@carnaval.risq.qc.ca... > Steve Geller (stgeller@pacbell.net) wrote: > : leguerrl@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Le Guerrier Louis-Luc) wrote: > : > : >We should focus on bicycle trailers, tricycles and other human vehicles > : >to transport normal personal goods,, and > : >use horses to carry heavy loads to/from the railways (to replace trucks). > : > : I say neigh to that one. One cannot park a horse overnight and > : forget it. The horse and buggy era is over. > : > : Small pedal-powered or electric "station cars" are the better > : solution. > : > Yes, it's also a good idea, to expand the range of pedal vehicles to larger > units. The electric or solar powered vehicle is also a good solution. I didn't > say the horse is the *only* way to replace gas motors. > > Louis-Luc These arguments may soon be over, as alternative fuel sources are beginning to take fruition in our society. One good example is United Parcel Service, who is currently durability testing in six major metropolitan areas in the US a hybrid motor setup for use in their package cars (The box-shaped vans). This is a DURABILIY test, not a FEASABILITY test. They plan on phasing in the alternative HEV motors in all their standard package cars as they phase out the current motor/tranny layout, which had been in use for about 20+ years. Their press release is at http://www.ups.com/bin/shownews.cgi?19981229hybrid The article is from late December last year. They began durability testing in late March of this year. Also note that they currently operate over 900 CNG vehicles. As UPS and other companies begin to show that overall operating costs of these type of vehicles is cheaper than current designs, the rest of the world industry will get in step follow suit. The dreaming is over. Reality is that the solutions are in use now, are are becoming desireable to large companies as they are now becoming cost effective. The key is that they are now being shown as costing less overall than regular combustion engine drivetrains. We need to start thanking the developers that have made great strides in overcoming the storage problems we were having with batteries in the early '80s. That has been the binding point to date, as we were still using battery technology developed after the first world war. Keep in mind, however, everything is not all perfect. As were start using large banks of batteries for in these hybrid motors, we have to remember that we have got to properly dispose of the waste, something we currently pretty much ignore. The problems will not 'disappear' with the new technologies- we will have to continue to strive towards protecting our environments. Good luck to the human race!
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