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Article #407Re: How about car-free cities?/ Liberer nos villes des autos?
From: Le Guerrier Louis-Luc
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:00
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jasonmax@hotmail.com wrote:
: The disadvantages of the car listed below are all true; I try to bike
: around town whenever I can. However, it sure is nice to have a car to
: drive to the grocery store when it's raining cats and dogs.
You can always get around and attach a trailer to your bicycle, or ride
a tricycle with a large bucket, provided you have a waterproof cover and
a raincoat. Here it doesn't rain so much. In fact, I've not used my
umbrella since I've put away my winter gear.
Here many grocery employees who deliver (from small convenience-type
groceries) ride a trike to deliver the food to people. They said they
prefer that from the truck. Now we just have to make that the rule rather
than the exception.
Louis-Luc
:
: Also, I don't know about Montreal, but here in Michigan, it isn't
: really safe to drive a car, let alone a two-wheeler, during most of
: the winter.
Yes, the cyclists sometimes ride on sidewalks here, but when I bike I use the
street if I'm in the same direction as the traffic, to leave full space to
walkers
. When I walk, I don't complain about a cyclist who pass *really*
close to me. I know it's impolite but I tolerate it because my life isn't
threatened even if I get hit. With car drivers, I'm much more severe because
they must follow the rules. When I have the priority, I impose my presence
and I lock the street crossing. We should put cameras to prevent car drivers
from being aggressive. Some drivers force walkers to be aggressive just to
force drivers to stop and respect the rules (like on a turn through a
street crossing).
The "The biggest pass first" is obsolete, antisocial and dangerous. Everyone
should develop safe ways to eliminate it.
Louis-Luc
:
: Jason Stotter
: jasonmax@hotmail.com
:
: On Sun, 16 May 1999 16:00:39 GMT, mjvande@pacbell.net (Mike Vandeman)
: wrote:
:
: >On Wed, 12 May 1999 15:01:51 GMT, leguerrl@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Le
: >Guerrier Louis-Luc) wrote:
: >
: >.What's the advantage of a car?
: >. It transports you from A to B.
: >.
: >.And what else?
: >. It throws CO2 into the atmosphere
: >. It makes a lot of noise
: >. It takes some space, even when you don't use it!
: >. It can kill or harm people, especially if the driver is not careful
: >. In fact, just in Quebec, over 750 people die each year from car
: >. accidents, and many of them are bikers or walkers which are
: >. neglected by aggressive car drivers.
: >. It's not a "natural" object itself (like a horse).
: >.
: >.
: >.And what should we do?
: >. Transform some of our large cities, like Montreal, into environment
: >. and safety friendly cities, by gradually preventing cars from going
: >. in certain areas (like downtown), to eventually end up with a paradise
: >. where people can walk, bike, rollerblade, ski or dance, without the
: >. noise, stress and air pollution that cars create. Medium to
: >. long-distance
: >. transport should be performed by trains, trollers, subway,...
: >.
: >.WE, CANADIANS, MUST ADAPT OUR BEHAVIOUR TO THE HUMAN CENTURY: THE 21st!!
: >
: >Bravo! Do you know about Carbusters Magazine?: carbusters@wanadoo.fr
: >===
: >I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
: >humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
: >years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
: >
: >http://www.imaja.com/change/environment/mvarticles/
: >More!: http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
:
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e08b,404b3e73fe0fa8f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e08b,public X-Google-Thread: fd3ff,404b3e73fe0fa8f2 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3ff,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,404b3e73fe0fa8f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,f83b6205dcd401dc X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public From: leguerrl@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Le Guerrier Louis-Luc) Subject: Re: How about car-free cities?/ Liberer nos villes des autos? Date: 1999/05/18 Message-ID: <0fe03.147$y3.32124@carnaval.risq.qc.ca> X-Deja-AN: 479436217 References: <zJg_2.114$X31.3051@carnaval.risq.qc.ca> <373eeb29.6219179@news.pacbell.net> <373ef899.16420817@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Followup-To: ca.environment,sci.environment,rec.bicycles.soc,ba.transportation X-Complaints-To: abuse@umontreal.ca X-Trace: carnaval.risq.qc.ca 927035452 132.204.2.94 (Tue, 18 May 1999 09:50:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:50:52 EDT Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment,rec.bicycles.soc,ba.transportation