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Re: Two Thumbs Good -- A Critical Mass Ride Report

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From: Roger Leuthner
Date: Wed, 26 May 1993 18:10
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Sometime, somewhere Roger Leuthner writes:
>>>> Seems like all that's needed these days to justify negative,
>>>> abusive, obstructive, and contrarian behavior is a 'cause',
>>>> and causes are as easy as words.

In response, <Jym.25May1993.1555b@naughty-peahen> writes:
> "These days?"  That's fuddy-duddyspeak.
>=o= That's my flip remark.  Let me be clearer:  the flip remark
>does not mean that I agree with the portrayal of Critical Mass
>as "negative, abusive, obstructive, and contrarian behavior."

You don't agree with the portrayal of this 'demonstration' (sic) as
"negative, abusive, obstructive, and contrarian behavior", but you do:

>=o= Critical Mass, as I experienced and reported it, consisted
>of a large group of people riding together peacefully (if, yes,
>contrarian), and a handful of people who chose to be abusive.
^^^^^^^^^^                                            ^^^^^^^

So that leaves negative and obstructive to support.  I won't do it for
you, but if you read what you posted about it, it is pretty clear that
these two words accurately describe actions taken by the group.

So you don't agree with it?  This tells me that you don't even agree
with what you fabricate within your own head.

>=o= I really see no point in arguing for or against this
>latter group.  I do think some of their actions come off not
>as meaningful opposition to institutions, but as pointless
>disrespect for individuals,

Yea, mebbe you did get it.

>I also think that those who decry the whole group for the
>actions of the few could stand to reexamine their own thought
>processes.

I decry the actions of the 'group' as a whole.  That is what we're
talking about isn't it?  This was one event, conducted by a group,
and that group is the sum of its members.  Maybe you should consider
segregation?  Yeeeeee hawwwww

Consider them examined.

>> No, it's simply what a lot of people think who mourn the
>> passing of a slighly more civil society.
>
>=o= Which society was that?
>    <_Jym_>

The one where people on the street respect one another.  Obviously
not the one we're in now.
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From: rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner)
Subject: Re: Two Thumbs Good -- A Critical Mass Ride Report
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