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Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)

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From: Mark Slagle
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1992 02:54
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In article <l2v2t0INNmb4@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, dlp@zule.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan Pritchett - SunSoft Engineer) writes:

> You need to check with the CA DMV if you really believe this. They will be
> very quick to point out that they license you to drive your car as a
> PRIVELEGE, not a right and they can decide to revoke the privelege on their
> terms.

> This philosophy is part of the problem with the automobile. Just remember
> if driving was a RIGHT you wouldn't need a license to do it legally.

I am familiar with this assertion, but remain unimpressed by it.
The representatives of our benevolent governments may pass laws,
make proclamations, and redefined words in any way that they see
fit.  They can and do accomplish these things without my advice
and consent.  But if the government chooses to call one of my
rights a privilege, or if they redefine the word rights in a way
that pleases them, this has no bearing on what are truly my
rights.  Just because some factotum in some government bureau
thinks that the US was engaged in a protective reaction strike,
for example, does not oblige me to refrain from calling it an
offensive maneuver, for that is what it still is.  We may speak
of our rights under the constitution, and we may speak of our
legal rights, but in general, my rights are not limited to these
categories, regardless of your assertion to the contrary.
Furthermore, the California DMV is not in a position to determine
what, in fact, are my rights.  Those who work there are mere
functionaries.  They are our employees, and damn poor ones at
that.  Also, they are in substantial disagreement with various
arms of the judiciary on this matter, but details are best
discussed in some other newsgroup.
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Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
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From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)
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