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Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)

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From: John Serafin
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1992 04:33
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slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle) writes:

>In article <xm#lvyp.jps@netcom.com>, jps@netcom.com (John Serafin) writes:

>> And everyone knows that showers and changing rooms cost much more and take
>> up a lot more room than parking lots.

>The issue is one of lost productive time which, if spent on a
>regular basis, dwarfs both costs that you attempt to compare.
>When a parking space has a comparable cost to the person whose
>car occupies it, then you may reintroduce your point for further
>discussion.
And when automobile generated air pollution and traffic congestion ceases to
be a serious problem (assuming plentiful fuel), you can ride your motor
vehicle with impunity whenever and wherever you like.
As to lost productive time, I am not the only one who saves time and money
by bicycling to work.
I do not ask that everyone commute by bike.   I do ask that every one realize
that over the decades trillions of dollars have been spent smoothing paths 
and sealing fields  so
that riding around in a cage is even feasible.   For a while, and even before,
it also greatly helped getting around by bicycle.   For the last few decades,
much of this construction has been such that it is actively or passively
hostile to bicycling.   For a wide variety of reasons, I believe that it is in
everyone's interest that the transportation infrastructure be less hostile to
and more encouraging toward bicycling.
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>----
>Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
>slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
>408-756-0895                                   USA
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John P. Serafin  |  Operating a bicycle is more like driving than riding.
jps@netcom.com   |  Operating an automobile is more like riding than driving.
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From: jps@netcom.com (John Serafin)
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Subject: Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)
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