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Article #458Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)
From: John Serafin
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1992 04:33
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1992 04:33
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slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle) writes: >In article <xm#lvyp.jps@netcom.com>, jps@netcom.com (John Serafin) writes: >> And everyone knows that showers and changing rooms cost much more and take >> up a lot more room than parking lots. >The issue is one of lost productive time which, if spent on a >regular basis, dwarfs both costs that you attempt to compare. >When a parking space has a comparable cost to the person whose >car occupies it, then you may reintroduce your point for further >discussion. And when automobile generated air pollution and traffic congestion ceases to be a serious problem (assuming plentiful fuel), you can ride your motor vehicle with impunity whenever and wherever you like. As to lost productive time, I am not the only one who saves time and money by bicycling to work. I do not ask that everyone commute by bike. I do ask that every one realize that over the decades trillions of dollars have been spent smoothing paths and sealing fields so that riding around in a cage is even feasible. For a while, and even before, it also greatly helped getting around by bicycle. For the last few decades, much of this construction has been such that it is actively or passively hostile to bicycling. For a wide variety of reasons, I believe that it is in everyone's interest that the transportation infrastructure be less hostile to and more encouraging toward bicycling. >-- >---- >Mark E. Slagle PO Box 61059 >slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com Sunnyvale, CA 94088 >408-756-0895 USA -- John P. Serafin | Operating a bicycle is more like driving than riding. jps@netcom.com | Operating an automobile is more like riding than driving.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd3ff,32d0223205c36d8d X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3ff,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,32d0223205c36d8d X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-06-06 17:14:28 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!olivea!apple!apple!netcomsv!mork!jps From: jps@netcom.com (John Serafin) Newsgroups: ca.environment,ba.transportation Subject: Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .) Message-ID: <bj+l-q+.jps@netcom.com> Date: 7 Jun 92 04:33:01 GMT References: <1992May21.061714.22821@cypress.com> <JYM.92Jun2213217@remarque.berkeley.edu> <SLAGLE.92Jun3001118@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> <1992Jun3.174400.9568@pbhye.PacBell.COM> <SLAGLE.92Jun3235820@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> <xm#lvyp.jps@netcom.com> <SLAGLE.92Jun5200130@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> Distribution: ca Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 34