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Re: Creeks and Sprawl (was: An example of how zealots . . .)

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From: Carl Gooch
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1992 00:28
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In article <1992Jun8.173622.4035@clipper.ingr.com>, fenwick@clipper.ingr.com (Stephen Fenwick) writes:
|> In article <1992Jun06.190314.169257@zeus.calpoly.edu>, jwest@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jason Steven West) writes:
|> > A question; What is the compaired cost to the loss of productive time,
|> > building showers and lockers, and roadway maintainence, verses the
|> > health benifits, better land utilization (less need for parking space),
|> > and the cost of vechicle (including maintaince)?
|> 
|> One data point--I'd lose about 30-40 minutes per day (car, vs. actual data
|> riding to/from work for about a year last year) just from riding. Personally,
|> I'd want to shower three times a day instead of once (sometimes twice)
|> (once after getting up, once after arriving at work, and once after getting
|> home). This is commuting from (roughly) Central & Castro in MVW to the
|> Palo Alto airport (at the far end of Embarcadero). With the extra showering,
|> call it 45 minutes per day, being generous to our cycling bretheren.
|> 
|> Since it can't come off my work time, it has to come off my personal time.
|> That's about 185 hours per year (@ 45 minutes/day). Reality check: I get
|> 3 weeks vacation per year, which is 120 hours (8 hours/day).

You seem to be neglecting either the time you would ordinarily spend 
exercising (if you do) with accompanying shower & change time; or the 
health benefits that you got while riding to work regularly which you
no longer enjoy.  Add in reduced health insurance to go with your 
improved fitness, reduced car insurance and upkeep costs due to lower
mileage, and that 185 hours/year might not sound like such a bad 
investment, even ignoring the environmental damage you wouldn't be
causing.

|> I think you add at least one (and probably two) showering occasions.

A matter of taste.  For me, no more than one; I don't bother to shower 
before riding to work, and since I live alone and usually ride home during
the cool of the evening, I don't necessarily shower when I get home.

Carl

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Carl Gooch                       |        Why am I inside at a keyboard when 
gooch@leland.stanford.edu        |        I could be outside riding bike?
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