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In article <1992Jun8.215300.7719@leland.Stanford.EDU>, gooch@leland.Stanford.EDU (Carl Gooch) writes:

> (The time lost would doubtless come out of the employees own
> time and not the company's anyway; it would seem unethical to me to 
> consider myself "at work" until I had showered and changed, just as it
> would if I counted driving/cycling time as part of my 40 hours/week.)

To perform the calculation you need only to consider that if you
don't value your leisure time as much as your work time that you
would spend more time working until the balance is struck.  Personally,
my employer would need to offer an additional incentive, in terms of
money or indirect rewards, in addition to my base salary to induce
me to give up more of my "free" time in favor of more work.  In fact,
I believe I would work somewhat less if there were no structural
constraints to prohibit it.  Others will find there own situation
on one or the other side of the optimum, but using the pay rate for
the lost time seems justified.

> Finally, as others have said before in this debate, I'm not advocating the
> complete elimination of cars, just their sensible use.  I do not consider
> having everyone drive their car to work by themselves every day "sensible
> use".

The problem with this concession is that is not really much of one.
You disavow the extreme, as most anyone would, but your statement
implies that you think most people are not doing the right thing.
Since we cannot expect everyone to agree about what constitutes
"sensible use", you will need to provide some sort of lever if you
think some adjustment is necessary.  Since you say that the common
practice of driving to work alone everyday is not "sensible", we may
safely conclude that you want to make a modification to the decision
that others have made.  What force will you apply?

If your answer goes beyond enforcing a reasonable allocation of the
cost of the behavior, then you are letting yourself in for a big fight.
On the other hand, if all you are saying is that you wish other people
could be a little more like yourself, then I sympathize with your 
desire, if not your view.
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