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Re: Better ways to handle cars

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From: Jack Brand
Date: Fri, 08 May 1992 18:19
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In article <1992May7.225022.9893@pbhya.PacBell.COM> whheydt@PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) writes:
>In article <1992May7.210559.19116@PacBell.COM> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
>>And I support
>>Mike Vandeman's call for an end to the free parking subsidy
>>for single-passenger drivers, with the proceeds going to
>>subsidize mass-transit instead.
>
>I suppose my feeling about this amount to at least a mild streak of
>libertarianism . . .  I have this idea that the government that
>governs least governs best.  

And John McCarthy echoes this libertarian sentiment with a
comment for Mike Vandemann (regarding Mike's half-facetious
suggestion to get rid of suburbs):

>Also tell us what other restrictions on freedom you have in mind.

Fine.  I also have this odd notion that people should be held
accountable for behaviour if it has an adverse effect on society.  
If someone wants to commute in a way that pollutes the environment
X amount they should be totally free to do so.  They should simply
be held monetarily accountable for someone to clean up after them,
in proportion to X amount.  The more pollution your personal choice
generates for the rest of us the more it costs to clean up after you,
and the more you pay.  If I dumped my garbage on my neighbor's lawn
I would be held accountable; it is past time to quit considering the
atmosphere somehow off-limits for same.  Surely Libertarians are not 
opposed to being held accountable for their actions ;-) ( the smiley 
because I would predict that in fact they would be horrified by the 
above-mentioned scheme because it would involve someone like the 
Evil Government administering it.)

All of the wonderful economic and libertarian "reasons" for people
keeping the status quo regarding transportation and the environment
are fascinating.  I hope that when we are explaining to our
grandchildren exactly why it was again that we trashed the atmosphere
for them, those reasons will be convincing.

Fill 'er up.

Jack Brand
Pacific Bell Electronic Systems Administration Center (ESAC)
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From: jlbrand@pb2esac.UUCP (Jack Brand)
Newsgroups: ca.environment,ba.transportation,pb.general
Subject: Re: Better ways to handle cars
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Date: 8 May 92 18:19:36 GMT
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