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Claus T. Giloi wrote:
> In article <frank-1509962023160001@virso.virtualsound.com>, 
> frank@virtualsound.com says...
> >P.S. What exactly is a "pure habitat"?  Aren't humans part of nature?
> 
> No, humans are not part of nature. In common use, "Nature" is the relatively
> stable ecological system of the pre-industrial world. This pre-industrial
> environment is rapidly being consumed by humans, even as they extoll its
> virtues in art and literature. Unless blinded by their self interest, most
> people appreciate the tragedy of its destruction. Children have little
> problem appreciating this.
> 
> Humans ARE part of the environment, but this environment has not reached
> any sort of equilibrium. Time will tell what a steady-state environment
> including human impact will look like, but indications are that it will be
> horribly degraded both functionally and aesthetically.
> 
> Claus


HA. NOT.

Just because mankind has placed a label upon something does not mean 
we are not part of the picture.  
Such a narrow minded, above it all attitude !!
And of course, mankind is the judge of what the "steady-state" is... 
   ** HA **
Again, such a narrow minded, ** holier than nature stance. **

I'm all for saving the wilderness!!  I love it, let's save it.
Best shot at doing that: Stop the cars.  Stop the planes. 
Stop paving the planet.
Stop buying stuff.  Any stuff.

In this stupid, above it all attitudes (no, no, no. not just our 
friend Claus, all of us - me too) I see no-one addressing the items that 
     CAUSE THE PROBLEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Stop consuming.  Grow your own.  Feed your own.  Minimize
Ride your bike, stay off of the paved roads, stay out of "the system" 
as much as possible.

Flailer