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Article #5694Re: American River Campaign Alert. Urgent!!
From: Keith G. Wagner
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:00
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Ralph Finch wrote:
>
> In article <4ps96g$rmj@cobweb.aracnet.com> jedwards@aracnet.com (Jeff in Portland, Oregon, USA) writes:
>
> What BAD will really due is allow developers to build in
> areas which are now in very flood prone areas.
>
> What it will really do is reduce the probably of flooding from around
> 1/100 - 1/200, to around 1/500. Of course, the optimistic 1/200 with
> a Folsom re-op and levee work assumes that no levee ever fails.
Of course your estimates assume that the Auburn Dam wont fail
during an earthquake event. Furthermore, I seriously doubt that
this dam could reduce the annual chance of flood to 1 in 500.
No dam that I have ever heard of will last much more than 100
years. Silt transported downstream builds up behind the dam
reducing capacity until the dam is eventually full.
> There are several hundred thousand people living _now_ in the flood
> plain, rightly or wrongly. To throw their future away because some
> developer might benefit is callous.
To subject them to a forty foot tidal wave makes more sense?
> The issue of building the BAD should not be confused with the issue
> of removing all California dams.
>
> Of course not. I brought that up because some seem to think that
> California was kind of natural paradise Before Dams, and that the only
> things dams ever did was to line the pockets of greedy developers.
I disagree Ralph. You brought that up for the same reasons that
you compare the dam to Social Security, Medicare, and the War on
Poverty. Deflection, Distraction, Confusion. Where no good
argument exists, say something outrageous and hope that the
other end is to baffled to know how to begin to respond.
> Your opinion of
> "environs" (in black helicopters?) doesn't matter.
>
> My personal opinion doesn't matter, but the religious nature of
> environmental causes matters very much to those about to be sacrified
> in favor of Nature.
Nobody is being sacrificed Ralph. Well, except you of course.
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