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Article #6160Re: Absorbiton Cooling (Was: California capitulates to Detroit)
From: Robert Kleinschmidt
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 00:00
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In article <bryan.821356900@winternet.com>, Bryan Andersen <bryan@subzero.winternet.com> wrote: >Through a HVAC contractors book I found out that salt water systems >are used for many large buildings to chill water for pumping through >forced air radiator systems, however they have fallen out of favor >because of their tendacy to clog up. Someone would need to check the >evaporator section daily for clogs, and break them up if they formed. Smaller units I think circulate ethylene-glycol mixes. Apparantly too, a lithium-bromide/water mix may be substituted for ammonia . >I've been interested in because it seams like it would be a good way to >provide low energy cooling for an RV. As others have pointed out, gravity circulation has some problems on RVs. Although RV refrigerators are common, I am told they have shorter lives. Also, does not provide quick cooling. > I'd like references so I can >look them up. Also manufacturers that make absorbtion cooling devices like >refrigerators and whole house AC units. One of the things I'm really >interested in is the actual tempeture needed for the heat source? Refrigerators are made by Servel/Dometic, Consul, and Sibir among others. Refrigerator sources might include Lehmans (Kidron Oh.), RV and off-grid supply houses. In addition to refrigerators, gas fueled freezers are also available. I had looked house chillers ~5 years ago, but cannot now find my literature. Probably HVAC suppliers, propane and NG companies would be good starting points. Coleman apparantly used to make a through-the-wall AC unit that sounds most like what you want. Might still be specs on it. >I'm wondering about this is because in my RV design I'm using a hot water >boiler for heating and hot water. Also as much waste heat as possible >from the engine and generator will be dumped into the boiler's tank. >Is 180-200 F temp water high enough for the heat source in an ammonia >absorbtive air-conditioner? What is high enough? Are there chemical >combinations which will work with a 180-200 F heat source? It was my understanding that this is practical on large stationary cogen units, and can even theoretically be solar/thermal driven, but I doubt if I would undertake your RV project due to motion problems, weight, bulk and lack of a good commercially available starting point. Suspect you would have to fabricate most of your plumbing. Sorry I could not be more help, hope I am overly pessimistic, and please let me know what you conclude. Rob Kleinschmidt >Bryan Andersen <-O.O O.O-+ Diversity is the spice of life.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10e415,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e415,public X-Google-Thread: 107e5d,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid107e5d,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public From: robk@hal.COM (Robert Kleinschmidt) Subject: Re: Absorbiton Cooling (Was: California capitulates to Detroit) Date: 1996/01/12 Message-ID: <4d68rj$1lc@schweik.hal.COM> X-Deja-AN: 134906321 references: <4bf68t$pil@shellx.best.com> <4cudfs$hgp@k9.San-Jose.ate.slb.com> <4d1sbj$3c@schweik.hal.COM> <bryan.821356900@winternet.com> organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc. newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.energy,sci.environment,alt.energy.renewable