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Re: Stop Comparing EVs to today's cars

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From: George B
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 00:00
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stncar@ix.netcom.com(Martin J. Bernard III ) wrote:


>First you were asked to support your claim. Give data, not more claims.
>Tell us what percent of commuters live in apartments and condos and do
>not have parking within the complex. You will, of course, find the
>percentage to be small. Actually, on street charging devices were used
>in the 1920s and some have recently been designed.

I see YOU don't give any data to support YOUR claims either. It is
very simple, how many URBAN (not suburban) dwellers OUTSIDE of
California live in multifamilly housing vs. how many in single familly
housing.

I think you will find the VAST majority (especially in the larger
cities of NY, CHI, Boston, Phila, Balt, DC,Det,Minneapolis,etc)

>Wrong. Thermal management systems have been designed to keep the
>battery warm. And the thermal mass of the battery keeps it warm for
>hours if it is not plugged in. Do you really think these problems have
>not been solved. 

Ok then if ALL of these problems have been solved why have I NEVER
seen an EV on the road here?

>If you look at real data you will see that the average commute for all
>large cities in the U.S. is 21 minutes plus or minus a minute. That
>number has been unchanged over time since that type of data was
>collected. It is the reason 19th Century cities were so small. Sure
>there are prople who want a certain lifestyle and choose to commute 75
>miles. Other like myself commute down two flights of stairs.

That data is skewed. What is the average DRIVING commute? If you throw
in folks in the major cities that take the subway, it skews things.



>So the average commute is less than twenty miles.

Really?  You have given no data to support this.

> Most EVs will have no
>trouble with a less than 40 miule commute and some side trips.

AT 0F temperatures? GIVE IT A BREAK.


>Companies are beginning to offer free plug ins.

I know of not a single one around here. If they offer it, they are not
promoting it. It IS offered in the northermost cities for employees
and customers to keep block heaters operating though.

>No company will say no because of the political implecations.

MOST companies will say no because of the FINANCIAL implications. Yes
they will provide the plug ins but I expect that they will BILL the
employees. No employer buys your gas for you to get home from work
unless you have a company owned car, now you are sounding a bit
off-the-wall.


>Not true. There already is a project in New England to make the whole
>region EV accessible by strtegically locating fast charging stations.

See us in 10 years and tell us how it worked out.

>Your conclusion is based on faulty assumptions as I just pointed out
>for maybe the 10th time.

As usual, whout any data to back them up. My faulty assumptions are
just as good as yours :) We will see who has the better crystal ball.




George Bonser
grep@cris.com
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Subject: Re: Stop Comparing EVs to today's cars
Date: 1996/01/08
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