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In <4cl2lj$i20@spectator.cris.com> grep@cris.com (George B) writes: 

>>Perhaps the title should be California wakes up to reality?

>Ahhh! THIS is what I have been trying to tell these enviro-ostrichs
>but they are neck deep from sticking their head in battery acid for
>the last week or so.

This discussion has been ongoing for years.  Your newsgroup was only
added a few weeks ago.

>How many additional battery manufacturing plants will we need to bring
>online? How much do THEY pollute? How much energy do THEY use? What
>about environmental concerns from the manufacturing process?  Heavy
>metals, poisonous chemicals? Would LA allow such plants within the
>city? How much oil is needed for the plastic casings?

This certainly requires research.

>They only think about the end use and are just plain dead set against
>IC technology simply because it is IC 

No.  Hybrids are promising as well, and they have ICEs.

>even though an EV is going to
>burn as much or MORE fossil fuel than that EV. 

Do you have reliable references for this claim or did someone toss this
tidbit out on the net?

>They like it because it
>burns the fossil fuel in SOMEONE ELSES community. 

If people are going to live in cities, they will have to transport
themselves around.  If ICEs pollute the air too much, then some other
mode of transportation is needed. 

If power plants are constructed in low population density areas, then
pollution is lowered in high population areas; hence a per capita
reduction in local pollution is acheived.  Of course, then the NIMBY
effect takes place.

>They are too self
>centered and not looking at the global picture. 

Please give us your take on the 'global picture'.  The US consumes 26%
of the current production of crude oil and has approximately 35 years
of domestic oil supply left, even assuming a 50% import rate,
extracting oil that is not economically recoverable at today's prices,
and finding new undiscovered oil fields.  The US is the greatest
producer of CO2, among others.  What is a complete solution to the
pollution and resource problem?

Cheers,

Will Stewart