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Article #6231Re: Windmill farm in Palm Springs
From: Hans Pedersen Dambo
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 00:00
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 00:00
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donb@rational.com (Don Baccus) wrote: >In article <4cjjua$4fd@daisy.pgh.wec.com>, >Andy Holland <zcrah2@cnfd.pgh.wec.com> wrote: > >>Cooling towers exist at many thermal stations because of local >>thermal "pollution" (the fish love thermal pollution). > >Salmon don't. > >The removal of riparian growth by logging or grazing or whatever >hurts salmon because it leads to warmer water. Often erosion >is increased as well, but the rise in temperature alone can be >enough to make the stream uninhabitable by salmon. > >It was concern for the effect of warmer water on salmon which >led to the requirement for a cooling tower on the Trojan >nuclear plant on the Columbia River. Whether or not this >plant would've raised temperatures enough to pose a significant >threat, it is certainly true that salmon are very >temperature-sensitive. > >>However, without a doubt, the most beutiful idustrial complexes >>ever built are nuclear power plants. Architecturally, many plants >>are quite impressive, and the grounds at most facilities are >>very well maintained. As the energy source is clean, and as >>ex-naval officers seem to be in charge at most places, "shine >>she must" (run if she will). > >Trojan, about 30 miles north of Portland, consists of a moldering >bunch of ugly grey concrete that looks as though it were designed >by a refuge from Stalin's School of Architecture. > >But the grounds are very well maintained, I must admit. > >This, of course, has nothing to do safety. >-- > >- Don Baccus - > At the Barsebek plant, where I worked for 10 years, we for many years had a "fish growing plant" (I don�t know the correct English word but believe that you understand what I mean) where the cooling water taken from the sea after cooling the steam from the reactor in the condensor (thus getting 10 degrees C warmer than the sea) was lead directly from the condensor to the "fish growing plant" where some 50 tons of salmon a year were "produced". Since the water was warmer than the sea they kept eating through the winter and grew quicker than normal. So about one year was gained. There also were some other intersting kinds of flat fish, crayfish and asian giant shrimps. That plant was run as a joint business and research project. This project was stopped because it wasn�t easy to sell "nuclear salmon" to the public. So this does not support what you say about salmon not standing warm water. Maybe there are different kinds of salmon? Hans Pedersen dambo -- http://www.sbbs.se/com/home/dambo/ http://www.sbbs.se/com/home/dambo/enp.html http://www.sbbs.se/com/home/dambo/mfk.html
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 107e5d,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid107e5d,public X-Google-Thread: 10e415,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e415,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,3fcd89873520c250 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public From: Hans Pedersen Dambo <dambo@sbbs.se> Subject: Re: Windmill farm in Palm Springs Date: 1996/01/07 Message-ID: <30f017bd.0@news.sbbs.se> X-Deja-AN: 134298495 references: <4c9bp5$646@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> < <4cgm3q$cd5@igc.apc.org> <4cjjua$4fd@daisy.pgh.wec.com> <4cm58u$lfv@rational.rational.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 organization: Environmentalists for Nuclear Power mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.energy,sci.environment,alt.energy.renewable x-mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit)