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George B (grep@cris.com) wrote:
: will1000@ix.netcom.com (Will Stewart ) wrote:


: >Probably on the net, too.  I've never heard of a single charging
: >accident from anyone I've met personally.

: Allow me to indroduce myself!  I have personally seen one battery
: explode and have had two other cars (ICV's) towed into my  shop after
: explosions. I have never seen a car explode while refueling ... yet.

Do tell.  I've seen half a dozen car fires, and they were all fuel leaks.

: >>>>What type of safety must be in place to help 
: >>>>reduce the issues when an accident occurs?  Acid spills on 
: >>>>roadways, what happens?

: >>>Gasoline spills on roadways.

: >>Gas rarely spills in car accidents. The tanks are made to prevent 
: >>this.  You've been watching too many movies.

: >Funny, I've seen cars engulfed in flames on the highway, on side
: >streets, and in garages.  How many battery explosions have you seen?
: >Did they destroy the vehicle and the occupants inside?

: >Cheers,

: >Will Stewart

: Willy, those cars ungulfed in flames on the side of the road are
: USUALLY 1) The result of OIL leaks that the owner KNEW about but
: failed to correct or 2) Electrical short circuits causing wiring
: harness fires.

Georgy, this is a load of bull hocky.  OIL LEAKS?  you've got to be
joking.  Engine oil is very hard to ignite.  Once in a blue moon maybe,
but not "USUALLY".  Electrical shorts I could believe, although cars
have these things called fuses that tend to prevent serious damage, by
and large.  To momentarily connect this discussion to the real world,
all of the car fires I've had any experience with have been
fuel-related.  On the topic of oil, since you mention it, I might point
out used engine oil is a very serious pollutant.  It is frequently 
disposed of improperly, resulting in contamination of groundwater.
It is rare to find an ICE car more than a couple years old that doesn't
leak oil.  EVs do not have this problem.

: Folks rarely drive around in a car that reeks of gasoline vapor ...
: for vary long.

I guess where you live everyone is highly responsible and has the
wherewithall to afford normal car maintenance and repair.  Around
here most people just don't give a shit and will drive a car untill
it blows up.  Even the few who care can't find a competant mechanic.

: And I would MUCH rather be splashed with gasoline than battery acid. I
: would also rather my CAR be splashed with gasoline than acid.

How about if it's on fire?  Ya know, modern technology being as freakin'
slick as it is, we've managed to figure out how to handle volatile
hydrocarbon liquids with an admirable safety record, considering the
millions of morons involved.  I think maybe the same materials and
engineering skills that produced the current state of affairs just
might be able to figure out how to build a battery that would not
self destruct in a minor fender-bender.

: George Bonser
: grep@cris.com

George Seibel
seibel@mms.sbphrd.com