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Re: THE EMERGING INTERNATIONAL ORDER

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From: John W. Ratcliff
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:00
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mjavid@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
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>         These are some of the basic principles & objectives:
> 
>         -universal peace

I'm all for it.

>         -independent investigation of truth

Count me in.

>         -oneness of the world of humanity

Sure, just allow lots of breathing room for individuality.

>         -religion must be the cause of fellowship and love

Totally against.  Repulsed in fact.  In direct contradiction of your previous statement: 
"independent investigation of truth."  Organized religion is the enemy of truth, attend any 
sermon, church, or book burning if you have doubts.

>         -religion must be in conformity with science and reason

Then it ain't religion is it?  If it's in total conformity with science and reason, then at best 
we call it "philosophy" *not* religion.


>         -religious, political, economic and patriotic prejudices destroy
>                 the edifice of humanity


Ok, are you a little schizoid?  You promote religious principles, then state that they destroy 
the edifice of humanity.  This message is anything but an appeal to reason.  Political, 
economic, and patriotic features of a social order are not inherently prejudiced or 
non-prejudiced, they simply reflect realities of the social fabric we find ourselves in.

I see one thing you do have in common with conventional religions, black & white belief systems. 
 I bet this messy, fuzzy, ugly, real life situation is the bane of your existance isn't it?

>         -struggle for existence is the fountain-head of all calamities and
>                 is the supreme affliction

Without any struggle I see an awful lot of boredom.  Struggle, conflict, these are the dramas of 
our lives.  Without any struggle, any conflict, I see supreme boredom.  

>         -material civilization need be combined with Divine civilization

I have no idea what this means.

>         -promotion of universal education

I have no idea what this means.

>         -essential basis of all the Divine religions is one

Scary stuff mein fuhrer.

>         -spiritual solution to the economic problem

Ok, call up the Federal Reserve, I bet that bunch of Illuminati FreeMasons will be ready to 
implement that poste haste.

>         -a world commonwealth

Facism.

>         -a world federal system of government

Facism.

>         -a world legislature

Facism.

>         -a world executive

Facism.

>         -a world tribunal

Facism.

>         -a world inter-communication mechanism

Already have one.  Thanks.

>         -a world metropolis

Grotesque.

>         -a world auxiliary language

More facism.

>         -a world script

Got one.

>         -a world literature

Extreme facism.

>         -a world uniform & universal system of currency, weight & measures

More facism.

>         -a world religion

Offensive beyond all belief.

>         -a permanent world peace

Yummy.  Sounds great.

>         -a world divine civilization

Meaningless.

John
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From: "John W. Ratcliff" <jratclif@inlink.com>
Subject: Re: THE EMERGING INTERNATIONAL ORDER
Date: 1995/12/14
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