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Article #6495Re: Ozone&Global Warming, L.A. Times
From: Cynthia Buell
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 00:00
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 00:00
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In article <pacsoftDGEwp9.H1F@netcom.com>, pacsoft@netcom.com (Wilhelm Sarasalo) wrote: > I just read an article in L.A. times. That article claims, and I have > seen this claim before, that destroying Earth's Ozone layer leads > to global warming. > I can't speak to the global warming issue, but as to ozone, I have something to contribute. My father, who is a nuclear engineer, has always maintained that freon, which is much heavier than air, would not reach the ozone layer in large enough amounts to cause a problem. Following is an exerpt from a message he sent me on the subject. He goes on to explain what he thinks causes the hole in the ozone layer, and the political/economic motivation behind the freon ban. It makes sense to me. Let me know what you think. "...the molecular weight of Freon-12 is 120.9 and air runs about 28.9. Chlorine, escaping from pools and water treatment plants, clorox around the home, etc. is a more likely culprit, but it has a molecular weight of about 71! (two atoms per molecule at 34.453 atomic weight) What I was running on about the other night....was the Auroras. Borealis and Australis. You might remember two spectacular nights in Idaho in the Winter of 1957-58, when the sunspot activity was throwing such tremendous clouds of protons at us, that it warped the magnetic field enough to drag the north pole close to Idaho. It looked like a giant wagon- wheel in the sky, with a "hub" directly overhead, and green, red, blue and yellow blobs of "solar wind" sweeping into the center from the periphery. About three seconds to make the trip. The Earth's magnetic field is a radiation shield, because when you try to force charged particles crossways through a magnetic field, the particles spiral around the lines and slide both ways into the poles. As they slow down (lose energy) their rate of reaction with air molecules goes way up, until they lose their last energy in a burst at the end of their path. It's analogous to focusing the Sun's thermal and light radiation with a magnifying glass. Don't tell me that can't explain why holes get "burned" in the ozone layer over the poles. And It's been going on for billions of years." He goes on to discuss how third world countries had started selling freon very cheaply, and this made the freon marking unprofitable for DuPont: "The Country is Indonesia. They have multiple islands, with oil and gas deposits onshore and offshore. The gas bubbles out like CO-2 from soda pop as the oil depresurizes on the way to the surface, so you either have to use it, burn it in flares, or refrigerate it clear down to -259 degrees Fahrenheit to make LNG out of it for economical ocean shipment. It's cheaper to take chlorine out of the ocean and fluorine from fluorite deposits and substitute them for the four hydrogens in methane (Natural gas is about 87% methane and 8 or 9% ethane plus heavier things. Since DuPont's patents on Freon have long since run out, and third world countries like Indonesia were chasing them out of the market, it made sense for them to convince their buddies in Congress that public welfare demands outlawing Freon-12 and going to one that they either could control, or would take years for the competition to catch up. Somewhere around here, I've got a beutiful 7- or 8-page paper by a PhD in Mensa about the whole Freon thing. I thought you might have it, already. If I can't find it, I can get another from a friend in the Sales Dept who has been forwarding it all around."
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10df74,a76302291e18e565 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public From: cbuell@earthlink.net (Cynthia Buell) Subject: Re: Ozone&Global Warming, L.A. Times Date: 1995/10/19 Message-ID: <cbuell-1910951346060001@cbuell.earthlink.net> X-Deja-AN: 117805794 references: <pacsoftDGEwp9.H1F@netcom.com> organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. newsgroups: ca.environment