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Dan Ferber <Dan_Ferber@qms1.life.uiuc.edu> wrote:

[SC opposes Prop 187; Create a new Homestead Act, I say]

DF>Where's the land going to come from?  Do you propose taking private land? 
DF>the fertile land is already being used.  The land claimed by your
DF>ancestors was not "owned" (except by the Native Americans who were driven
DF>off of it--I won't get into that).  It is a different time and place.

Isn't about 70% of the land in the West still public? There's plenty 
for new immigrants to have if SC wants to encourage illegal immigration. 
I'll bet there's even alot that can be planted and watered. Even what 
isn't especially fertile, we can find better land for them than what 
they're leaving in Mexico or China. Remember, many of last century's 
immigrants were given relatively crappy land and their decendents are 
still here. If they can't farm it, then maybe they can mine it, ranch it, 
or develop it. 

For example, we could slice up Yosemite into homesteads and the new 
immigrants could make a living by charging Sierra Clubbers to hike 
across their property. Or we could dole out the Redwoods and immigrants 
can make an honest living as timber harvesters. You just need to use   
your imagination.

There are surely tens of millions of people who would love to come to
the U.S. If SC wants California to maintain incentives that attract
illegal (read uncontrolled) immigration, then SC should give some 
thought to how those people are going to live. 

DF>Having said that, I also think that our borders should be tightened to 
DF>get illegal immigration under control.

Build a big wall perhaps?

Did anyone else see "TV Nation" a few weeks ago where they had a story 
on how lax security is along the Canadian-U.S. border. That was funny, 
especially the lady who got past the custom officer wearing a big sign 
that said something like "I Need A Job." At the end, the "reporter" 
implied that racism is the reason for the difference in our security 
efforts between our north and south borders. It would be racist of us if 
we didn't build a big wall along the Canadian border to match the one 
we build along Mexico.

>I don't think that "librill" is necessarily a code word for Jew, (although
>"Hollywood cultural elite", "international banker" and "east coast elite"
>sure are, and these words are used by conservatives often.  Just ask Bob
>Dole about the Hollywood elite.).  

Is it possible for Bob Dole to complain about Hollywood without using
an anti-Semitic slur like "Hollywood cultural elite?" Or is it that any 
complaint against an industry with a disproportionate number of Jews is 
automatically a slam against Jews in general? Or is it that some people
always see the race or religion first and the individual behavior as 
secondary.

Who are the "east coast elite?" It's not a term I'm familiar with. Do 
the Kennedybergs belong to it?

Mark Gahler