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Article #677RED ALERT: MALA "SPOTTED EAGLE" POPE
From: FirstNationsFirst
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:19
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:19
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This was posted on IndyMedia San Francisco yesterday http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/08/06/18439218.php Please help First Nations people by circulating this widely: ------------------------------------Begin quote-------------------------------------------- RED ALERT: Mala Spotted Eagle Pope and the Nanish Shontie SCAM I was in Tucson in 2001 and I saw Mala Spotted Eagle Pope with my own eyes and I was not impressed. Pope came to the University of Arizona in April 2001. He was supposed to give a talk, but all he did was try to solicit funds for Nanish Shontie, an embassasingly silly "education center" for well to do New Age types based in Monmouth Oregon. I had done some research and found that this group started out associating itself with known frauds on the Northwest coast the Ghost Wolf/ crystal skulls cult and then with the fake Hopi elders and a lot of people who appeared on Art Bell just to promote themselves. When they were exposed, they cleaned up their act for a short while, and then went right back to touring the country to collect funds for their so-called education center. The charge for ceremonies by calling the ceremonies "healings" and calling the fees "donations." This is a standard trick among frauds. They use a lot of catch words to attract rich yuppies like "earth friendly" and "sustainable" and throw in some ancient cataclysmic prophesies to fool people who know nothing about ndns. This group is real tricky. They actually study people who are prone to be attracted to environmental causes and ndn causes and learn how to manipulate them into giving money for this phony community. They've even managed to defraud the government into giving them nonprofit status. The group is all about profit. Anybody who still thinks otherwise, is really deluding themselves. It's pretty well known across NDN country that there have been numerous reports of Mala Spotted Eagle Pope, disrespecting, assaulting and abusing women. Anyone could have seen them on numerous ndn boards since at least 2002. No one should take my word that this is a bad guy. You can Google him and look at what he's up to for yourself: Google Holland http://www.google.nl Google Austria http://www.google.at Ask yourself, why would a man need to travel all over the world like that if he had roots in any real ndn community? Or contact the NANAI site, they know about him. I've heard lots of things about his disrespect for women at various pow wows. I've heard many ndn women tell that some of his healings are sexually inappropriate and that he uses his imagined status as a medicine man to try to force women to engage in sex acts with him. I know for a fact that there are charges of sexual misconduct pending against him in several foreign countries. Austria and Holland at least. Anyone could verify this information with a few phone calls or letters. There is also an ongoing investigation about Pope in Veneta County Oregon due to abuse complaints filed by several women at that fair. (it's about 15 miles west of Eugene in Lane County.) http://www.virtualgumshoe.com/resources/index.asp?STATE_ID=38&CATEGORY_ID=67 http://www.orcourtsonline.com/ Phone: 503-378-3725 Ext. 44429 You have to pay for records Unfortunately, sexual abuse is common among people pretending to be ndn medicine men. That's why it is vital that ndns be able to warn the public about the dangers of becoming involved with fakes. New Age ndn operations like this are rife with fraud and sexual abuse is a common thing. When I saw Pope in Tucson in 2001, he behaved very inappropriately towards a young Dineh woman and an older Ojibwe woman at a talk he gave. The talk made me very suspicious since it was really just a fund raising attempt. His grammar was atrocious, he talked more about Christian concepts, and overall, he didn't make any sense. He appeared to be very nervous and jumped around from subject to subject, couldn't stay on one topic and demonstrated that he really knows nothing about indigenous culture. It was my impression that Mala was only talking to the white members of the audience and he was only interested in getting money from them. He seemed irritated that native people had shown up for the talk at all. When a native member of the audience challenged him on his superficial knowledge of indigenous spiritual practices and his use of tonto speak, and his claims to be a "third generation medicine man", he became belligerent and recited the standard new age fluff about being positive and how evil people are who use their critical thinking skills. There was a young Dineh woman who wanted to know why he traveled all over asking for money and who his people were. He tried to intimidate her into silence by yelling at her and he demonstrated that he is very quick to anger. It has been my experience that true native elders are very slow to anger and will always be patient with you if you have questions. Mala couldn't answer to anyone's satisfaction as to why he was in Western Oregon. He refused to give any details about what Western Shoshone or Cherokee communities he claimed to be from or what the indigenous elders in Western Oregon thought of his community. Mala has a problem respecting women and a problem with his temper; I've seen it with my own eyes. Someone should contact the civil and the Tribal authorities in Oregon about him. BEWARE of people like POPE! Anyone who is interested in Native spiritual/environmental beliefs should beware of people like him. Anyone who wants to talk to me about this may contact me at savage_minded [at] hotmail.com Patrick Quinn ------------------------------------------end quote------------------------------- Thank you
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