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Phil Ronzone (phil@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <hsdgDBp4Ct.I88@netcom.com> hsdg@netcom.com (Bob Lange) writes:
:     >>Anyone who is stating that our rangelands are being ruined by
:     >>cattle grazing is full of shit, ignorant of the fact's and
:     >>probably
:     >>
:     >Actually it is the wilderness that is full of shit, coming
:     >from your cattle and subsidized by our taxes. That is the
:     >point. No, I didn't just read about it, I have stepped in it,
:     >slept in it, and at times watched pristine mountain streams
:     >ruined by it. With my own eyes.

: Ah, yes, the eco-myth of "pristine" wilderness.

: I suppose that 150 years ago, when huge herds of bison were moving around,
: that they didn't leave a few kilotons of shit in every stream they
: crossed?

: Oh, I forgot -- in the good old days before DWEM came to America bison
: didn't shit ...
Many people find a signficant difference between domestic animals and 
wild animals.  Also, there are pristine areas, for example in the 
Sierras, but these are almost always areas under private protection. 
Finally, I don't recall reading that our tax dollars were used to 
subsidize 'huge herds of bison.'  

There has to be a compromise over what is protected and what is not, 
IMHO.  But we do not have to provide welfare subsidies to those who are 
using public lands for grazing.  This distorts the market and represents 
only a response to politics.  

Bob

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