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Article #6905Re: ECO War 2
From: Phil Ronzone
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 1995 00:00
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In article <gehlker-0207951927540001@ip056.phx.primenet.com> gehlker@primenet.com (Chris Gehlker) writes:
>In article <3sn7aq$295m@news.cuny.edu>, Coyote
><tom_bregman@qc.edu> wrote:
>
>>In article phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) wrote:
>>
>>>Sorry charlie -- the only legitimate and valid purpose of a
>>>government
>is to allow people maximum freedom.
>
>>Huh? This is Aristotle, Aquinas, Locke, Jefferson, Smith,
>>who?
>>
>Tom, I guess if someone mugs Phil, he won't call a cop. He
>wouldn't want to interfere with the mugger's freedom to spend
>the money in Phil's wallet. Actually, it's kind of refreshing
>to run across a doctrinare anarchist. There's not much point
>in discussing policy with them though. Their 1st principal is
>that all policies are wrng.
Sorry Mr. Gehlker, but if my refusal to acknowledge the Stalinist-tending
facist regime cause you to use the label "anarchist", well, you have a WEIRD
way of using that word.
I believe as a fellow, to use *your* word, anarchist said:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That
whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is
the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
government...
In other words, the only purpose of a government to allow us all maximum
freedom. Our lives, our liberty, and our pursuit of happiness.
The purpose of a government is NOT to, in the words of those two
great Fascists, assert "ask not what the State can do for you, ask what
you can do for the State". Only womanizing power hungry immoral jerks
like Mussolini and JFK could actually say things like that and see
nothing wrong with it.
Now pray tell, what part of YOUR life were you thinking of sacrificing to
the almighty State?
--
"I didn't do it, nobody saw me, and you can't prove it!" - B. Simpson
These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...)
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