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Re: What "takings"? Private property? Ecology

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From: Jim Barrett
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 00:00
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In ca.politics dlow@ppg01.sc.hp.com (Danny Low) said: 
 
 
>Jim Barrett (jimbar@also.hooked.net) wrote: : Since you think it is
appropriate  
>to call someones idea stupid when you 
>: think it is stupid maybe you should do so in this case. The idea that
the 
>: bridge that is used for cars has fees that are only for mass transit and

>: not for the cars makes no sense. You mean to say that the cost to build
the 
>: bridge is zero. This is clearly ridiculous.   
>: Who pays for the roads. Who pays for the traffic cops and the traffic 
>: courts. Who pays for the pollution. Who pays for the public parking and
so 
>: on. 
> 
>Once more you show off your ignorance. You clearly do not know TWO facts
about  
>the SF bay area bridges. The first is the tolls have paid off the bridge  
>building costs long ago. The tolls were enacted specifically to pay off
the  
>cost of building the bridges and were supposed to have ended once that  
>happened. They were kept specifically to subsidize mass transit. The
second is  
>the maintenance of the bridges come out of the gas tax and car fees. That
is  
>the reason they exist. This money also goes pay for the roads, the traffic
 
>cops, the courts, the pollution, etc. According to documents provided by
the  
>DMV, only 1/4 of the car fees go towards these items. The rest are general
 
>subsidies to the state and local government. 
> 
 
 
I pay my own health insurance. If the users of cars pay part of my health
insurance it is news to me. There are ongoing costs to maintain bridges
including earthquake proofing. There are a number of bond measures that are
paid for by the taxpayer that are being used to pay for your roads to drive
your car. The notion that those who use cars are paying all of the costs of
their use is clearly not the case. All roads should be toll roads. The
income tax system and general bond measures or anything that requires me to
spend any money or any time is clearly a taking from me. 
 
Any time I must waste waiting for cars to get out of my way when walking is
a cost to me. The pedestrian was here first. My space was taken by cars. I
was not compensated. In places that I was able to walk with out any
hinderence I must now walk around. This uses my time. This has a cost. This
is a taking. 
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From: jimbar@worm.hooked.net (Jim Barrett)
Subject: Re: What "takings"? Private property? Ecology
Date: 1995/05/31
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