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In article <37v48b$blb@mizar.usc.edu> mankin@mizar.usc.edu (Eric Mankin) writes:

>In article <pjc.39.2EA2E84B@aloha.net> pjc@aloha.net (Patrick J. Chicas) writes:
>>In article <37uj3j$ifa@mizar.usc.edu> mankin@mizar.usc.edu (Eric Mankin)
>writes:

>*First, what do you consider the East Mojave?

>Draw a 25 mile circle around Kelso. What do you consider the East Mojave?

Afton Canyon and anything east.

>If you're talking about use of ORV's truly offroad, I've gotta say it makes
>me nervous. As someone pointed out, dry washes aren't much of a concern,
>but hillsides are. 

Dry washes, river beds, lava beds, rocky terrain etc.  Do you know what
percentage of the desert is represented under the "unbroken crust" label?

>If you want to talk carrying capacity, I don't think
>the carrying capacity of the desert in terms of density of true ORV use
>is very high. 

As I have said, from my extensive experience in the Eastern Mojave. I never
encountered traces of my tracks after an absence of 60+ days.

>I'm not a geologist, but I can picture a situation twenty
>years from now where uncontrolled ORV use in the Mojave created dust storms
>that blotted out the sun for 100 miles downwind. And I'm not sure what
>you could do about this in the way of mitigation.

Jeezuz Eric! Is the sky falling too, impending ice age or global warming?
The largest turnout of the Barstow to Las Vegas race with 8000+ riders created 
no such cloud as compared to the one you have visualized. Neither does today's
huge off-road car races such as the Baja 1000.  Damn, this pisses me off!
You can't wait to restrict my lifestyle because of some wild scenario you've 
concocted in your head with Zero research or scientific study. 

>As far as trails go, that's another story -- but as far as I know, there will
>still be a lot of trails to a lot of different places after the new

Interesting, at least your not the extremist that Mikey Vandeman is.

>New EM area is created, and there's still a chance to work to get trails
>unjustifiably closed reopened. I am glad the bill passed.

You hit the nail on the head!  I expect countless lawsuits. 

Regards

Pat