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In article <1994Oct20.150653.14032@pbhye.PacBell.COM> mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman) writes:

>>ORV's are not illegal.. 
> 
>But most uses of them are.

Define the illegal uses..

>>-Placing human life on the same level as a plant or wild animal is immoral
>> and should be a crime against society.
> 
>I didn't place it there. It has always been there. If the eaten and the eater
>aren't equal, and the eaten is allowed to go extinct, then the eater will,
>too. 

That's a general anology that holds no weight. If it did, we be extinct?

>Why is that so hard for you to understand? Hence, they are equal. QED

Partially because, your arrogant, bizzare ramblings have not proven a 
thing except your bias against ORV's.

>>>There is also a big groundswell for drug use and guns; does that 
>>>mean we have to allow those uses of our precious public lands?
>>
>>Guns are -legal- on many public lands, so are ORV's. I doubt you'll
>>ever have the influence to change that significantly. 
> 
>I guess you either can't, or are refusing to, answer a question.
>That makes a conversation with you pointless.

Ai answered your question asshole.. Again, guns are legal and are 
allowed on Public Lands. Drugs are not legal, and are therfore not
allowed.. 'That simple enough for you?

>>Mike you statement is all inclusive as usual.. ORV users do not 
>>want all of the desert, just equal consideration. A few box areas 
>>and corridors on the Mojave Trail and the Barstow to Vegas race
>>course would be a great start. 
> 
>It isn't our land to give you. It belongs to the wildlife who live
>there and have a far more legitimate claim to it than either of us.

For the wildlife -only-?  Do you subscribe to the "man as cancer" 
theory mike?

Also, critters have no rights, till they can learn to lobby for them.

>I am not discriminating. You are EXACTLY as welcome as I am. It's your
>MACHINERY that is not welcome. 

>Machines don't have rights. 

Ah, but the operators do, that's law mikey..

>"Extreme" is
>a relative matter. Galileo was extreme. Every new idea is extreme when it
>first appears, before it is accepted as common sense. 

A decent point. However, only a very, very small percentage of extreme 
ideas are excepted by mainstay society. So, in your case, most of your 
ramblings are worthless.

>I couldn't care less what the majority thinks,

That is very obvious. I'm glad you recognize your arrogance and 
selfishness.

>if they don't use their brains or refuse to learn.

I wonder if Jim Jones and Koresch looked at it that way?

>Funny, I saw that just yesterday....

It's a tired lie..

-'Rest of Mike's petty insults deleted-


>>ROTFL!  

>What does that mean?

Rolling On The Floor Laughing.. At you!

>>There it is in a nutshell.. An extremist response to an honest question.
>>Mike your speaking from emotion, you have no facts.

>Like I said, Galileo was an extremist, in your view. I am glad to be associated
>with him.

Did Galileo dodge questions too?