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In article <66f_9410271602@salata.com> Doug.Bashford%ow@salata.com (Doug Bashford) writes:

> PJC> From: pjc@aloha.net (Patrick J. Chicas)

>   I must say, Pat, your debate style has certainly deteriorated 
>   since last time we chatted.  

Your coming in late on the thread Doug.. Netiquette should preclude
you from making such ASSumptions.

>Has your club folded yet?  

Last I talked to Rick and Pat, everyhting was fine.. Did you know that the 
Newsletter is available via I-net.. There is a mailing list as well..

>   Are you
>   still running the Wiz Use BBS?  

Never ran a Wise-Use BBS.. Worked with PM to get an echo started.
Still around as I understand, and is being distributed via SURV-Net (300+ 
BBS's last count). Personaly, I have been too busy to look any farther on that 
front.

>  Last I heard, it had no traffic  except for you and PM.

Not me.. Again.. too busy.

> PJC> In respect to the Desert Tortoise. ORV's were labled as the prime
> PJC> suspect in the decline of that species by the enviro groups. When in
> PJC> fact, an increase  in the Raven population was later found to be the
> PJC> main cuse of Trotoise  decline.  Especially, since Raven's cannot
> PJC> understand and or respect in any  possibleway the protected Tortoise
> PJC> habitat. 

>  You Sahara Clubers have have been claiming that for quite awhile.

It's a fact worth mentioning.

>  Would you care to name the cause of this?

That's not the question though Doug. Why do you always steer around the facts?

Simply, the Raven population has followed the expansion of people in the 
settled areas. Now, answer my question.. Why did (many still do) the enviro's 
accuse ORV's of being the principle cause in the decline of the tortoise  
population, when validated studies indicate that the Ravens are to blame?

>... BANANA principal: Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything

Doug, do you still profess "The Man as Cancer" theme? 

Also, I heard something about enviro terrorism where a radical group blew up a 
popular river rapids area.  The whacko's claimed that the people were 
destroying the environment.. 'Have any clues on this Doug?

Pat