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Re: Disaster! (was Cal Desert Bill passes!)

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From: Todd Ourston
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 1994 20:58
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Mike Vandeman (mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM) wrote:
: can't recognize the ring of truth. I believe the charter of the NPS includes
: "preserve and protect" isn't that explicit enough for you? 

No, Mike, it isn't clear because it isn't in context and it isn't accurate.  
The ultimate objective of the National Park Service, according to its 
organic act, is to "conserve" wildlife, scenery, and natural and historic 
objects so that human beings can enjoy them now and in the future.  Note 
that the emphasis is on human enjoyment, not on conservation of wildlife, 
etc., as an end in itself.

: Why can't you
: anti-environmental types do your own homework, without the rest of us
: having to spoon-feed you all of your environmental information (which you
: instantly spit out, anyway)?

Why can't you take a moment to carefully read a document (or a book) 
before you put your own spin on it and claim that it represents a 
position that any reasonable person can see it does not?

: >Personally, I think the park is a fine idea in many way's. Unfortunately, at 8 
: >million acres it is an abhorrent overkill. Why so much?  Why such a lack of 

: maybe 1% of the species. Why don't you move your family into a 1-room
: "apartment", if you think space is unimportant?

Why don't you move out of your urban dwelling and tear it down if you are 
so committed to removing human impacts to what were once natural 
environments?
  
: ORVs are totally incompatible with wildlife. Even the presence of humans
: is incompatible with most species (see _The End of Evolution_, by Peter Ward,
: especially p. 271).

Well, there you have it, Mike.  Isn't about time for you to do the 
honorable thing and show the sort of respect to wildlife that you claim 
it deserves?  Why not be a true leader of your cause and cease to be 
present?

: "Working" from your point of view, but not that of the wildlife FOR WHOM
: THE PARK WAS CREATED!

Wrong, Mikey!  The National Park Service has no authority to administer a 
park for wildlife.  The NPS must administer the wildlife on its holdings 
for the benefit of humans of this and future generations.

: ORVs are an oxymoron, with the emphasis on "moron". They should not be allowed
: on ANY land, public or private. They serve no useful purpose, and simply
: destroy habitat and scenic value for the next person, plant, animal.

Gee, Mike, isn't that more or less the same result of every bite of food, 
bit of housing or clothing, and every other consumable you take in during 
the course of your life?  What a terribly selfish h*man you must be!  Oh, 
the shame!!!
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Subject: Re: Disaster! (was Cal Desert Bill passes!)
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