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In article <37s8n4$7ou@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> sturd@falstaff.MAE.CWRU.EDU (Mike Sturdevant) writes:

>In article <1994Oct16.212144.2199@pbhye.PacBell.COM> mjvande@PacBell.COM (Mike
>Vandeman) writes:
>> There is no "right" to ride
>>off-road, and there are many environmental laws that it violates.

Who's laws Mr. Vandeman? Your's no Doubt!

>        There is a right to the pursuit of happiness and there is no law
>that specifically forbids riding off road. There are many areas that
>have been closed to ORV use however.

Mike, Mr. Vandeman has flatly stated that ORV's should be banned.
He is a extreme environmentalist in the most kind words. Anti-human
in common statements. 

Don't expect an answer from Mr. Vandeman on any challenge. Recently a 
challenge to his false stetement  that National Parks are solely for the 
preservation of wildlife, he generally shrinks away from his attempts to 
perpetrate the common "Environment - Big Lies".

>>There is another term for cooperation in illegal activity: conspiracy.
>>Where is it written that EVERYone's hobbies have to be supported on
>>public lands? I want to do bulldozer racing. Why can't I? To be fair,
>>you can't exclude me. None of you Wise Abusers have been able to answer
>>that.

Hmm.. Conspiracy.. Ms. Feinstein knows all about that.  Seems Catelus
Holdings, an operation of DiFi's husband looks to gain highly from
S-21.

Hobbies.. Your extreme eco-views are not mainstream Mr. Vandeman, should we 
support your views as law. No!  Your a damn hypocrate, which does not suprise 
me a bit.

>        Because you aren't a bulldozer racer and have no intention of
>bulldozer racing. 

No, but I'll bet he commutes 40+ miles each day to Pac Bell Hq. Of
course he could live closer, but I doubt it.. What is it Mr. Vandeman? Are
you a hyporcrate again?

>>Then you didn't look, or iddn't know what to look for. It takes decades,
>>if not centuries, for desert lands to recover from ANY physical disturb-
>>ance such as motorcycling or bicycling. That is well known.

>        Well known by who? You have references? With a wee bit of wind,
>I can believe that all evidence of an ORV passing dissapears in a matter
>of hours at most.

Ditto! Take it a bit further Mr. Vandeman. When you assemble this data
and present it to the groups, please include information on the authors.

In all disprespect!

Patrick J. Chicas