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In article <1994Oct17.162338.28191@pbhye.PacBell.COM> mjvande@pbhye.PacBell.COM (Mike Vandeman) writes:

>In article <pjc.128.2EA209CB@aloha.net> pjc@aloha.net (Patrick J. Chicas) 
writes:

>Mr. Chicas is from Hawaii, the state with more endangered species than any
>other, as well as the greatest number of recently extinct species. That explains
>the following ravings.

I see, you attacking the people of Hawaii now..  

>>Who's laws Mr. Vandeman? Your's no Doubt!
> 
>Federal & state laws that you probably never heard of, like the Endangered
>Species Act.

I have heard of them. Now be specific with your claim. What, when and where
did the ORV population viloate these laws?

>>Mike, Mr. Vandeman has flatly stated that ORV's should be banned.
>>He is a extreme environmentalist in the most kind words. Anti-human
>>in common statements. 
> 
>That's a common way that anti-environmentalists try to divert the
>discussion away from the facts to attack the messenger. 

Do you deny your statements? In respect to our exchange, I am attacking your 
extremism, not environmentalism as a whole.

>some human behaviour doesn't make one anti-human, any more than a
>policeman who pulls you over for speeding, or a judge who puts you in
>jail for violations of the ESA is anti-human.

The laws on the books stand Mr. Vandeman. It is you that propse sweeping 
changes that are not popular with mainstream america.

>I do commute that far -- by public transit. So what? Pac Bell moved its
>HQ after I started working for them.

Why haven't you moved? Wouldn't it be absolutely eco-correct to walk or 
bicycle to work. You propose extreme measures against the populace, only
your excluded.

>Thank you for your astute contribution to sci.environment.

As I have said prior.. I support many aspects of S-21. I disdain the absolute 
lack of consideration for ORV's. That Sir was a political, power move by the 
enviro org's and their political puppets. Of course, in your extremist mind, 
that classifies me as anti-environmental.. 

In all disrespect.

Patrick J. Chicas