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Article #7542Re: Disaster! (was Cal Desert Bill passes!)
From: Patrick J. Chicas
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 21:10
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 21:10
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In article <37uj3j$ifa@mizar.usc.edu> mankin@mizar.usc.edu (Eric Mankin) writes: >In article <pjc.123.2EA05D1D@aloha.net> pjc@aloha.net (Patrick J. Chicas) writes: >*Eric is a proponent of one, if not many, of the "Big Environmental Lies".. >* >*I am not denying that repeated use of any one route or small area will not >*cause damage. Such is evident in the Lucerne Valley and El Mirage Dry Lake >*area. Both are small designated ORV areas, that are overused. >I've driven in the East Mohave <sic>in a 4WD vehicle; I've seen ruts >carved in the hillsides by wheel tracks. Yes, the desert can absorb a >certain amount of punishment, but I think the damage seen in the "overused" >areas you point to is scary, and I honestly believe that you are underestim- >ating the cumulative damage of increasing numbers of vehicles -- and First, what do you consider the East Mojave? Secondly, I completely realize that overused areas are a problem. I also, support controls in overused areas such as those in effect protecting the Afton Canyon hillsides. However, simply closing areas, without opening or encouraging use in other areas compounds the problem in overused areas.. Yet, I think that is theplan, "put them in a box, then scream when the box wears out.." >the numbers have been increasing. I'm sorry you don't like my attitude: Spare the common anti-ORV rhetoric and your attitude will be paletable. Regards Pat >I can't say that yours seems very likely to win converts. > Eric Mankin
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fa1e9,863af5ff4b0f7c61 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa1e9,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,92400604b160c5bc X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-10-17 15:51:57 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!nuhou.aloha.net!pjc.u.aloha.net!pjc From: pjc@aloha.net (Patrick J. Chicas) Newsgroups: ca.environment,rec.motorcycles.dirt Subject: Re: Disaster! (was Cal Desert Bill passes!) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 21:10:35 GMT Organization: Hawaii Online - Honolulu, HI Lines: 41 Message-ID: <pjc.39.2EA2E84B@aloha.net> References: <37p0k4$f0h@mizar.usc.edu> <37p9uk$nn4@crl6.crl.com> <pjc.123.2EA05D1D@aloha.net> <37uj3j$ifa@mizar.usc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pjc.u.aloha.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B]