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Article #7586Re: EV consumer protection warning
From: Ernst G. Knolle
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:18
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:18
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Ernst G. Knolle (knolle@crl.com) wrote: Past report claims EV is more fuel efficient In 1988 the Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc. published a paper (0148-7191/88/0711-1168) by Floyd A. Wyczalek (FAW) about Japanese electric vehicles (EVs) including the Toyota EV20, EVERA E32, EVERA E42, Nissan March EV II and Suzuki Alto CA71V. The report includes an energy use comparison with gasoline powered cars claiming that electric cars "are from 1.6 to 3.6 times more efficient". With numbers crunched properly, the opposite is true When I looked over FAW's paper I discovered several major mistakes. (Let's ignore the minor ones, even though they also add up). First big mistake was that he used a fuel to electric conversion factor of 34 kWh/gallon, which is what one achieves with lots of patience and a few grams of alcohol in a physics lab. But in high capacity electric power plants, the real world gets only about 10 kWh/gallon. Second big mistake, the Japanese EVs are essentially all converted gasoline powered cars with their back seats taken out to make room for batteries that weigh as much as 800 lbs. FAW then has compared 2-seat EVs with 4-seat gasoline powered cars, and finally the third big mistake, the EVs were tested in Japan by driving them at a steady pace of 25 miles per hour while the fuel consumption of the gasoline powered cars was taken from US EPA simulated stop-and-go city driving tests. Neither Japan nor GM can change the laws of physics More recently in the USA, we saw GM publicize two new cars, a 4-passenger gasoline powered car named 'Ultralite' which gets about 100 miles per gallon, and a 2-passenger EV named 'Impact' of which the energy use is about 140 watt-hours per mile, about the same as the Japanese EVs. I did a similar examination of rationale and numbers and came up with the same conclusion and that is, if one properly bases the comparison on equal size and performance, an EV uses about three times as much energy, at about five times the cost, as gasoline powered cars. If your EV salesman didn't tell you this, sue for fraud In California, we have consumer protection laws that provide for imprisonment, fines and compensation if someone sells you something without telling you all-inclusive the full true facts. If you bought an EV without being told of its colossal energy waste and cost, I suggest you exercise your rights.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10df74,19731e1c540d1e52 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-09-30 12:03:19 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!barrnet.net!nntp.crl.com!crl5.crl.com!not-for-mail From: knolle@crl.com (Ernst G. Knolle) Newsgroups: ca.environment Subject: Re: EV consumer protection warning Date: 30 Sep 1994 07:18:06 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Lines: 48 Message-ID: <36h6mu$sfq@crl5.crl.com> References: <36fs2p$8m0@crl.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl5.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]