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Article #7658Re: Cadillac Desert
From: Gregory Brian Pasternack
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 22:43
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 22:43
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Leon Taylor (taylor@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote: > I don't understand why a citation would render Reisner's book > science. In scientific publications, when a number is taken from someone else's work a citation is used to give credit to the original researcher, to allow critical (or uninformed) readers to look up its basis, and to give colleagues the source so they can incorporate it into their own papers/presentations. Instead of arguing forever as to what science "is" (scientists, philosophers, anthopologists, etc *still* haven't defined it and if Witgenstein is right they never will), it is more useful to frame things in terms of how scientists *behave*. In this light citations are easily recognized as a defining characteristc of scientific activity and the strive for clarity and objectivity. That is so is reflected by the staggering quantitiy of resources used to keep track of citations (e.g. see the Science Citation Index). Since I want to *use* valid numbers (about water projects) for economic and hydrologic analysis, I want to look up the sources to see the techniques used to derive the figures. Also, these other sources might include information that Reisner couldn't or wouldn't include, but which might be of interest to me. Summary tables, graphs, figures, etc would be a useful addition to the book, too (while I'm at it). > I would prefer that a writer -- journalist or scientist -- simply > tell me how the estimate was derived and relegate those disruptive > citations to the bibliography. Give me something that I can read; > tell me what you think and why. : I will decide what to believe. In general I agree, but an explanation of how the numbers are derived for water projects goes beyond what any layperson can understand without having taken a course in hydrology and perhaps a few others. Understanding aside, the details in these water project stories are so grueling that to compile them all in one book would turn it into a multi-volume set! For the purposes of an overview, I think citations *in the body of the text* are (appropriate and) enough. The bottom line for me is that it is a shame that a book presenting itself as "the way it was" brushes away its own citation trail as if it had something to hide. -- Greg Pasternack | Because each and every reality needs gpast@uclink.berkeley.edu | a regular tune up.
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