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Article #7883Re: underwater noise experiment
From: Carl J Lydick
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:32
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:32
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In article <2mst96$6rf@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, tobis@skool.ssec.wisc.edu (Michael Tobis) writes: =The reason many people are opposed to this study in particular is apparently =because of a gross misunderstanding of the level of disturbance of the =acoustic environment of the biological parts of the ocean. People who should =know better have been jumping to conclusions about this. The problem has been =exagerrated by many orders of magnitude: it is unlikely that any significant =fraction of whales will even notice this sound. Both the jumping to =conclusions and the refusal to let go of the conclusions once jumped on, =despite their lack of substantial support, are extremely alarming and =unfortunate. = =It illustrates the lack of skill in hypothesis testing of the general =public. Not to mention the irresponsibility of the news media. An editorial in yesterday's edition of the _Los Angeles Times_, for example, contained the rather strange statement The sounds would be received thousands of miles away through the new technique of acoustic thermography. It's rather alarming that a major newspaper carried an editorial which, among other errors, managed to confuse the use to which the data is to be put with the technique used to generate the data. It's more alarming still when you realize that the same paper carried, the previous day, an article which should have corrected a number of the editorialist's misapprehensions. Apparently the editorial staff of the _Los Angeles Times_ can't be bothered even to check their own publication for information before spouting ill-informed pronouncements. =There doesn't seem to be much of a bandwagon for an outlook that is =concerned about the environment and makes decisions rationally rather than =intuitively. Given a choice between blind complacency and wild panic about =the environment, the choice is not just disconcerting but also difficult. =It's not at all clear that wild panic won't do more damage than blind =complacency. Agreed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107c0a,61ad495f12b8735 X-Google-Attributes: gid107c0a,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,61ad495f12b8735 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-Thread: fb58e,61ad495f12b8735 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb58e,public X-Google-Thread: 10607c,61ad495f12b8735 X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-03-26 15:32:37 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU!CARL From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Newsgroups: ca.environment,talk.environment,sci.environment,sci.bio Subject: Re: underwater noise experiment Date: 26 Mar 1994 23:32:37 GMT Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera Lines: 44 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2n2gml$s8t@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <2mnrda$b12@galaxy.ucr.edu> <egeisler.764383985@qualcom> <Cn4n4B.L80@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <1994Mar24.102010.14205@aifh.ed.ac.uk>,<2mst96$6rf@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu