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Article #7950Re: College Bike Protester JAILED
From: Lawrence C Smith
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 21:36
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1993 21:36
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In article <1lvjjq$da2@agate.berkeley.edu>, c60b-3kx@web-3h.berkeley.edu (Leor Jacobi) writes: >What a waste of my time and energy. Of course, it _was_ worth your time and energy to join a biking protest that contemplated, and from your own words actually attempted, to enter a freeway and cost a great deal of other peoples time and energy, not to mention the very real possibility of someone being hurt or killed. Mr. Jacobi, you and your kind have advocated massive gov't intervention to severely limit cars because _you_ think they are damaging to the environment. Whether or not they actually do so is beside the point. You are seeking to use the power of gov't _against_ those people because of _your_ beliefs. You joined a protest that sought to influence the gov't to use its legally- sanctioned ability to employ aggression against your fellow citizens in order to accomplish this, and you are now peeved and annoyed that this time it blew up in your face and you found _yourself_ the victim of gov't aggression. This shoe fits both feet, Mr. Jacobi. You reap what you sow. Learn from this experience and realize that no matter how convenient gov't power is, _no_one_ enjoys being on the receiving end of it. What I and dozens of other Liber- tarians have been telling you on this net is just that. Having had a taste of just what kind of power you wish to inflict on non-vegan car drivers, per- haps you'd be more willing to accord _their_ rights some more respect, and to try to advance solutions that meet their needs as well as your own. I can't say I have any sympathy for you. You asked for it, you all but demanded it. You were being kept off that highway for your own safety and that of the people driving on it, your childish determination to circumvent that block, combined with the dozens of other bikers doing much the same thing, left the cops with little choice but to "get tough" to try to defuse the situation. You could have ended it at any time by just respecting _everyone's_ rights and just going home. You certainly deserve some jail time, but I doubt you'll get any. But as you pay your fines and fees, I suggest you examine your feelings very closely, and remember them, for that is what I and others feel when we pay the fines and fees _you_ manage to inflict on _us_. Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com) No, I don't speak for Cabletron. Need you ask? - Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want, it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10df74,d9a6758cb88de749 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-Thread: fb58e,d9a6758cb88de749 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb58e,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-02-18 13:36:35 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!news.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!transfer.stratus.com!nighthawk.clearpoint.com!samsung!balrog!ctron.com From: smith@ctron.com (Lawrence C Smith) Newsgroups: ca.environment,talk.environment Subject: Re: College Bike Protester JAILED Message-ID: <6954@balrog.ctron.com> Date: 18 Feb 93 21:36:35 GMT References: <1lvjjq$da2@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: usenet@balrog.ctron.com Reply-To: smith@ctron.com Followup-To: ca.environment Distribution: usa Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc. Lines: 42 Nntp-Posting-Host: glinda