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Article #7973Re: LA Charges Fees To Access National
From: Ed Harrison
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 20:59
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1993 20:59
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Dear Paul, I can certainly understand your outrage, but I would like to temper it with some other information. Ever since the passage of Proposition 13, the erosion of our public systems has grown increasingly more damaging. The agencies responsible for so many of the things we take for granted have been getting the short end of the stick. Compunding this problem is the "budget solution" passed by the state legislature last year. Raising taxes is not politically popular and so our legislators decided to get the money they needed by attaching funds collected by special districts. By taking funds from special districts (i.e. sewer, water, etc.) those agencies could raise their user fees to compensate for the difference. In effect, the state raised taxes by allowing the special districts to pass this cost on to the users. For most special districts, this was not a problem. The one special district that it did create problems for is the state's numerous local park agencies. Most of these agencies do not collect user fees and so agencies already hurting from post-prop 13 money woes, now face 30-40% budget cuts! The impact has and will continue to be tremendous. The city of Oxnard, for example, has a population of over 125,000 people. As a result of this action, they have closed their parks department entirely! My contacts with LA County assure me that there is little chance that the new fees will be enforced --most staff members do not support the program. They also tell me that the public response has been tremendous, and a reversal of the action may be on the way. Personally, I would view the fees as annual membership in the "Friends of LA Trails" club. We find the money to support our favorite charities like the Sierra Club, Audubon, National Wildlife Federation, etc., why can't we "Think globally and act locally?" We as members of the public can't make "donations" to the county, but this trail fee is one alternative. I like your idea of a trailside donation box. I recently saw a parking meter that was modified to accept donations for rain forest preservation. The VIOLATION sign on the meter was replaced with a picture of a leopard that moved across the meter's window. Maybe the county could put adapted meters at the trail head. What do you think? Some other comments... You brought up the mountain lion attack in Orange County. The legal issues of liabiltiy on park property are quite complicated. I wrote an article specifically on this issue that was published by the Park Ranger Association of California. I'd be happy to send you a copy if you're interested. You asked if anyone knew any 19th century laws about access. I'm not a lawyer, but the Massachusetts Bay Colony Ordinance of 1641, Section 4 states, "And for any (grounds) laying in common, though within the bounds of some town, it shall be free for any man to fish or fowl there, and may pass and repass on foot through any man's property for that end, so they trasspass not on any man's corner meadow." While this certainly carries no weight in California, it certainly shows the historical value placed on access to public lands. I do know that California has specific laws in regard to "transportation access" and a federal law may be of use here as well. The Land and Water Law Review of 1971 reads, "a channel which, during any stage, has been or is being used or is capable of being used in its natural and ordinary condition for floating any boat, canoe, skiff or craft with at least one person aboard, is declared public." So, if there is a stream bed leading into the forest that at high water could accomidate at least an inner-tube, you could argue that by law, the access is public. My last suggestion is to write to the Attorney General of California and ask for the laws regarding public access to trails, forests and recreation areas and carry copies of those laws with you. OK, OK, one last suggestion. Please consider becoming a member of the California Parks and Conservation Association. I'd be happy to mail you a sample newsletter if you request. Best of Luck, Ed Harrison
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10df74,d26ef9d3fd120ac3 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-02-05 04:33:08 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!infoserv!decwrl!amdcad!apple!stanford.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sun-barr!olivea!sgigate!sgi!cdp!harrisone From: harrisone@igc.apc.org (Ed Harrison) Newsgroups: ca.environment Subject: Re: LA Charges Fees To Access National Message-ID: <1332900128@igc.apc.org> Date: 4 Feb 93 20:59:00 GMT References: <1kn5u7INNbks@gap.caltech.edu> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway <notes@igc.apc.org> Lines: 85 Nf-ID: #R:1kn5u7INNbks@gap.caltech.edu:-358156073:cdp:1332900128:000:4197 Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!harrisone Feb 4 12:59:00 1993