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In article <Buv3CJ.Kyu@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:

>You mean, some environmentalists do't like the fact that the government won't
>disenfranchise businessmen.  It is an insult to be told by a bunch of 
>busybodies what one may or may not do with one's property.  Much more of an
>insult than being told that you will not be allowed to control the property of
>someone else.

OK Brian, we're going to go through this one more time. Here's the deal:

Let's say property owner A cuts down all his trees. Property owner B, who
lives downstream of A, finds out that the extra silt in the water has
killed all the fish that he needs to feed his family.

Before the cut, B would most likely protest the logging. He would say, "hey,
that cut's gonna screw up the stream going through my property."

Property owner A would say, "hey, I bought this property for the logs. If
you keep me from cutting, that is "taking;" compensate me fairly like it
says you have to in the Constitution."

Owner B says. "yeah, but killing all the fish is "taking" my property;
compensate me fairly likes it says you have to in the Constitution."


And on and on we go with the same merry-go-round of disagreement. Right now
in my neck of the woods the developers are whining that the slow-growth
initiatives are "taking" their property which they bought to they could
build lots of houses and make buckets of money. What do they say when I
tell them that their developments will "take" my property, which I bought
with the understanding that I wouldn't have a zillion people driving down
my street? "Go pound sand, Mike," that's what they say.

P.S. I don't understand your use of the word "insult" in the above.

>What would you consider to be "working"?  The elimination of all logging?
>Mining?  Private property?  Factories?  How much is enough?

1) The elimination of all logging? No. Let's negotiate...

2) The elimination of all mining? No. Let's negotiate...

3) The elimination of all private property? What, are you nuts?

4) The elimination of all factories?? Methinks you took too many
   hyperbole pills...


How much is enough? I'll tell you. As much as it takes to bring back
the salmon runs, stop the extinctions, cut greenhouse gas production,
and bring the western world to a closer, symbiotic, relationship with
the earth. That's how much. 

And guess what? All that, and you'll still have a job. Imagine that...

								MPA