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Article #8091Persistent Misinformation About EF! (was: EARTHFIRST gathering . . .)
From: Jym Dyer
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 17:57
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 17:57
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In article <1992Jul1.175324.12364@pbhya.PacBell.COM> whheydt@PacBell.COM
(Wilson Heydt) writes:
> When the story finally dropped out of the papers, various
> police and incestigative agencies still seemed to feel tha
> the EarthFirsters whose car blew up had been transporting a
> the bomb themselves. Absent any kind of conclusive deter-
> mination, that is still one possible explanation.
=/= That's absolutely incorrect. The Oakland Police and the FBI
stated that the bomb was sitting in the back seat when it went
off. There are two ways to verify that statement: (1) examine
the damage to the car, and (2) examine the damage to Judi Bari.
=/= It was never possible for members of the general public to
examine the car, because the FBI cut it apart with a blowtorch
and sent pieces off to a lab in D.C. No lab analysis has ever
been made public.
=/= Judi Bari's injuries are another story. They prove without
a doubt that the bomb was in fact placed under her seat. This
is, as you put it, "conclusive determination" that the Oakland
Police and FBI were lying.
> Given that various members of the organization have been
> associated with a variety of acts of sabotage, to conclude
> that explosives may be a subject near and dear to their hearts
> is hardly an outrageous conclusion.
=/= Also incorrect. Even the most rednecked factions of EF!
have *never* been associated with the use of explosives. You
are spreading misinformation.
=/= And Judi Bari was never a part of such a faction anyhow:
She was (and is) the leader of the faction that stresses the
consideration of social issues. It was she who led the North
Coast chapters of EF! to *renounce* tree-spiking.
=/= In my original message I referred to messages I've posted
to alt.save.the.earth. The points I made in this message were
made in those messages (with greater detail). It would appear
that you didn't even bother to check them out before making your
dangerous accusations.
=/= Nonviolent environmentalists are being injured and killed,
in part because of the spread of misinformation about them
(such as the accusations you make). This is no game. This
is no silly bout of Usenet flaming. Given the stakes, I'd say
you have a responsibility to know what you're talking about
before making such accusations. And I do believe you owe Bari
an apology in this forum.
<_Jym_>
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