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Article #8096Re: Ancient Forest Action Alert
From: Mark Slagle
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1992 00:09
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1992 00:09
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In article <1992Jul16.190250.8257@cco.caltech.edu>, tylerh@cco.caltech.edu (Tyler R. Holcomb) writes: > I do not want to get into an extended flameware: neither of us > seems to know enough about private property rights to develop > a decisive answer. You say you don't want a flame war, then you presume to judge how much I might know about the subject, without any evidence. Pretty arrogant. > I would like to make two points. First, you seem to imply that > the relevant standard is to "show specific damages to him and > his property." What I am saying is simple. Before you restrict the rights of others to the use of their property, you must show either that some sort of specific damages would result to certain interested individuals, or you must show that the state, acting in the interests of all the people, has some compelling interest in proscribing the proposed use or activity. If neither of these conditions is satisfied, then the state may still, under certain circumstances, regulate or restrict certain uses, but that constitutes a "taking" of the property rights of the owner and must be compensated. The default, however, must be in favor of the property owner, not in favor of those who would assert arbitrary control over him. In the absence of cogent arguments to the contrary, then, the owner is presumed to retain the rights to harvest his timber in whatever way he finds appropriate. It's none of our business. -- ---- Mark E. Slagle PO Box 61059 slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com Sunnyvale, CA 94088 408-756-0895 USA
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10df74,74612a2a6f7a9299 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-Thread: ffe14,59fa9633315a4be0 X-Google-Attributes: gidffe14,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-07-17 12:54:50 PST Newsgroups: ca.environment,alt.activism Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!kronos.arc.nasa.gov!iscnvx!news From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle) Subject: Re: Ancient Forest Action Alert Message-ID: <SLAGLE.92Jul17170944@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com In-reply-to: tylerh@cco.caltech.edu's message of 16 Jul 92 19:02:50 GMT Sender: news@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (News) Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co., Sunnyvale, Ca. References: <4830@gold.gvg.tek.com> <1992Jul11.224426.2523@megatek.uucp> <13vmm3INN2fv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> <SLAGLE.92Jul15200705@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> <1992Jul16.190250.8257@cco.caltech.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 92 00:09:48 GMT Lines: 35