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Re: PRO-FUTURE

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From: Carl J Lydick
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1992 02:28
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In article <l309ehINNbn8@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, jroland@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM (Jon Roland) writes:
>> -> (1) The state has a natural right to regulate the reproductive
>> -> behavior of its citizens, and may, under certain circumstances, need
>> -> to either compel women to bear children or to refrain from doing so.
>> -> Therefore, women must not be accorde a constitutional right to choose
>> -> whether or not to bear children.

>Nowhere in my postings on this subject do I call for totalitarian methods. You
>are reading that into them. Totalitarian methods wouldn't work.

Just what, then, DID you mean by the verb "compel"?

>In Japan following WWII, when housing was short, social pressure mounted to
>discourage couples from having more than two children. In China today, the
>one-child program continues with a remarkably degree of success, not so much
>through the operation of criminal prosecution as through the establishment
>of pervasive institutions of local social pressure. That's population control.

I.e., to some extent, at least, the THREAT of prosecution and "reeducation."

>The main loss to dwellers in such cities would be the inablity of most
>to visit the outdoors whenever they might want, but how many city dwellers
>take advantage of opportunities to visit the country now? The occupations of
>such city dwellers would tend to be more like the work done in universities
>than like that done in cities today, but unless you can't live without
>weekends tearing up the desert on your dune buggy, and are averse to mainly
>intellectual pursuits, you could probably learn to like it.

In what sense do you mean, "[m]ore like the work done in universities than like
the work done in cities today"?  And what makes you think that a significant
percentage of the population is NOT "averse to mainly intellectual pursuits"?






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