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Article #8118Re: PRO-FUTURE
From: Carl J Lydick
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1992 02:28
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1992 02:28
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In article <l309ehINNbn8@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, jroland@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM (Jon Roland) writes: >> -> (1) The state has a natural right to regulate the reproductive >> -> behavior of its citizens, and may, under certain circumstances, need >> -> to either compel women to bear children or to refrain from doing so. >> -> Therefore, women must not be accorde a constitutional right to choose >> -> whether or not to bear children. >Nowhere in my postings on this subject do I call for totalitarian methods. You >are reading that into them. Totalitarian methods wouldn't work. Just what, then, DID you mean by the verb "compel"? >In Japan following WWII, when housing was short, social pressure mounted to >discourage couples from having more than two children. In China today, the >one-child program continues with a remarkably degree of success, not so much >through the operation of criminal prosecution as through the establishment >of pervasive institutions of local social pressure. That's population control. I.e., to some extent, at least, the THREAT of prosecution and "reeducation." >The main loss to dwellers in such cities would be the inablity of most >to visit the outdoors whenever they might want, but how many city dwellers >take advantage of opportunities to visit the country now? The occupations of >such city dwellers would tend to be more like the work done in universities >than like that done in cities today, but unless you can't live without >weekends tearing up the desert on your dune buggy, and are averse to mainly >intellectual pursuits, you could probably learn to like it. In what sense do you mean, "[m]ore like the work done in universities than like the work done in cities today"? And what makes you think that a significant percentage of the population is NOT "averse to mainly intellectual pursuits"? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10607c,c1e364a5298bed1e X-Google-Attributes: gid10607c,public X-Google-Thread: 101407,c1e364a5298bed1e X-Google-Attributes: gid101407,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,32a6f273acc2f378 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-Thread: fb58e,c1e364a5298bed1e X-Google-Attributes: gidfb58e,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-06-06 16:17:28 PST Newsgroups: ca.environment,sci.environment,talk.environment,sci.systems Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU!CARL From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: PRO-FUTURE Message-ID: <1992Jun7.022815.13614@cco.caltech.edu> Sender: news@cco.caltech.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera References: <17.42.uupcb@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us>,<l309ehINNbn8@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1992 02:28:15 GMT Lines: 45